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Was considering returning with the event going on, but not sure I want to with all the nerfs. Convince me otherwise?

damn finally someone who gets it. Someone fish slap OP with this statement right here please.

Reading this ; dont you know how to adapt to game changes? There are reasons why nerfs come [albeit good or bad] , we players only have two choices, to stfu and adapt or to stfu and leave the game.

Door’s wide open, hope it doesn’t slam your entitled ass out.

Just saying, there’s this thing called balance.

Some classes excel at some things but are weak at others.
Some classes excel at other things but excel at those some things.

Pyro has 0 peel meaning 0 cc skills to protect itself, most of it’s damage is easy to avoid having to use your skills well. In exchange for that it got nice localised dps.

Cyro has tons and tons and tons of CC and decent damage, and a lot of utility, and most of it’s skills are easy to land as well, but in exchange for that it got less upfront dps.

It’s was always balanced. There’s a reason I hear pretty much all the peeps in this game are clerics lmao - all the cool offensive skills have been nerfed cus babies can’t handle it, while all the skillless classes are the best now. But whatever…

Seems you never played pyro well. Flame pillar can CC and dmg.
Talk about “skilled playing”

It’s funny how you don’t even know the classes you talk about.
How do/did Pyros require skills ? Because you have to be careful not to die ? Thank you, genius, that’s the case for every classes that don’t invest in Plate or CON.

Pyros were stupidly OP with their hits that killed in a couple of seconds: how does that require skills ? Putting a skill on the ground is “skilled gameplay” ?
They nerfed it because that was stupid. The class killed so fast you didn’t have to care about your safety. While some other classes did have a risky DPS playstyle as well but couldn’t kill as fast.

You’re just whining you don’t get to kill bosses in 5-10 seconds anymore. You’re the one with no skills.
Tons of classes are actually fun, but since your idea of “fun” is to face-tank and use OP skills that one shot stuff it’s no wonder you’re not satisfied.

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Pyromancer works great with the recently nerfed Linker.

I own a Pyro3 Linker2 Warlock Sage and even though the build cannot be considered a top-notch DPS build it is pretty fun to play.

Apparently he doesn’t was a “fun to play build” but a build which one shots and is “skillfully played” by pressing 1 skill.

Then he should make a Doppel, because it is now as braindead :stuck_out_tongue:

There fixed it for you.

Oh on the “topic”. What kind of play you are looking or is indeed dop3.
Facetanks with high dmg skills.

Well, Pyromancer post Agny launch was braindead :thinking: My statement is not incorrect.

Just build a cleric2 char into anything you want, works in pvp and pve, depending on how you build it next is how efficient you want the build to be for what situation.

With 2handed maces coming, wonder if a priest3 paladin3 chaplain would be any fun, roll that full spr build and hope for some neat synergy at r9!

that build you posted is for chumps.
A REAL MAN GOES CRYO+PYRO+SAGE

nope, real man play pyro ele. so if the :fire: out of control, u can just rain it down.
safety first

lul.

what returning event? is it still on?

All the “nerfs”? But they made the game much easier. Basically every single class is stronger relative to before.

I agree Pyro was hit too hard with the double-whammy nerfing Fireball and nerfing Agny, but on the flip side Hellbreath is a real skill now and Enchant Fire is actually a useful buff so it’s still pretty good for a low rank class. Since Wizard3 no longer gives you +50% magic attack, if you want more damage in your build Pyro still makes sense compared to the alternatives which are more support oriented.

Plus, Sage is still R1. We don’t know what it will be able to do in the future. Maybe it’ll have more tools to make Pyro better.

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Pyromancer is a strange class, right now is better than pre-Agny at least, and in theory they have good % damage compared to the other rank 2 classes but the damage interval of the multi hits are too high and FireBall have a slow animation.

Anyway, for DPS Wizard classes that are not elementalist, Pyro 2 - Thaumaturge 3 - Warlock 2 hits very hard. Summoners and Necromancers do damage now too.

Nobody probably cares, but just figured I’d say I decided to end up going with a full con,

Archer -> Quarral Shooterx3 -> Hunter -> Falconer

to take advantage of the xp boost event and try it out. Wouldn’t be possible to level normally.

If any1 wants to give me free stuff I’m on Klaipeda - o00o0o0ooo0o.

Just to let you know, unless they changed [running shot] you will have a horrible time without DEX as the aspd is just bad by itself.

I’m going to convince you otherwise. Don’t bother playing.

Unless you want to have fun with theorycrafting as an MMO there’s nothing special ToS is bringing to the table right now, you’re better off playing an MMO with faster releases, more content, and more prolific devs, unless you want something else that ToS exactly brings that you won’t find elsewhere.

MMOs in general seem to be in a bad place right now, as they have been for years, but the daily players/MMO are pretty weak now compared to mid-00s to early early-10s

Edit: If you are playing it’s a different story, but if you already quit you probably had a good reason to do so, and whatever the reason it is, it probably isn’t fixed yet. Wait for R9 and look again or just avoid.

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when so many forumers tells you to not play tos you should realise there are big issues…

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