im not sure about buying new tokens. because the tokens become untradeable.
the bad part is getting the 99tp from silver, or to the players that hoarded the silver in the beginning and bought all the tokens for 350k in AH
This is exactly it. And whatâs worse is the people who actually bought the tokens at 198 TP arenât getting this compensation. From how IMC worded it, those who own tokens reap all of the benefits and the entire point of their post is basically null. Why would you reward the person for owning a token when they didnât even buy it with their own TP? I mean, sure some people who legit bought the token with TP will be rewarded but this whole scheme IMC came up with feels like a super lazy way of going about it.
Donât this cry and because you had sold tokens and go to earn? The compensation?
i think IMC will figure this out within a week, i really hope so.
otherwise this would be the biggest game breaker so far.
like, this will actually break the game.
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- 7-day Token time extension (applied to all Tokens being used, regardless of type)
Hmm? When you buy a token with TP it is allowed to be sold on the market. Iâm not talking about reselling old tokens from the market that you purchased with silver. Iâm saying you use the tokens you buy with silver, and then you are given free TP after maintenance for each token you have used on your account and then you use that TP to buy tokens from the TP shop and sell those tokens.
Again though for clarification (to prevent confusion), tokens that you buy with your free TP from the TP shop can be sold.
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oh wow, thats what u mean. yeah u rly could do it that wayâŠomg
idk how popular tokens would be after this though, meaning it would drop back to 350k?
i just want a cap at 3-5, then get some costumes for myself
i dont want those people with 20 tokens becoming chaebol gods.
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For the first time to IMC you making something that give and you so complaining not to understand vocĂȘs to with you
I just want to say, I wouldnât expect you to be compensated for each token you have used if itâs already expired or if you stack 5 tokens for you to get 7 days for each token or for you to get 99 for each stacked token.
I think it will be 99 for each token you have in your inventory and if you have a token activated you will get 7 days plus 99 tp regardless if you have 5 tokens stacked. I just think thatâs how it will be.
Quite possibly sir.
But even so, the loophole would still apply. Except just in a slightly different fashion.
Player buys 10x tokens from market for silver.
Player doesnât use the tokens but just keeps them in inventory.
Player gets 990 free TP at maintenance.
Player then uses his tokens in his inventory to stack his token duration to 10 months.
Player uses free TP to purchase new tokens from TP shop.
Player sells new tokens on market.
In this example the player would still have the free benefits at no cost at all and still break even or come out with more silver after the maintenance o.o
As the OP mentioned though itâs definitely a ârich get richerâ kind of thing. If someone bought 1 token for 500k silver, then gets 99 free TP, uses his token and buys a token from the TP shop, and sells his new token for 500k⊠he breaks even and gets 1 free month of token benefits. Or sells his new one for 600k and makes 100k for free.
But an already rich player stands to gain immensely. One free month is nothing. What about a player who has 30-50 tokens stacked from world boss farming etc? Sure they may have earned their silver, but being able to earn 30-50 free months of token benefits and then flip it back around into silver and break even again (or make another 50-200k profit per token)⊠thatâs rough lol
Right now Token prices are high at 800k, after the patch it will probably drop down to lower than 350k.
this just benefits people who bought 20 tokens for 350k eachâŠ
it doesnt not benefit the majority who bought the tokens with cash
but those are the bots/ gold sellers anyway.
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Yea⊠this is why I think it should just be for people who actually bought tokens with tp before the change.
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Agreed. Or as OP mentioned some kind of cap. Hopefully @STAFF_Ines drops some wisdom on us again lol
When GM mentioned non event means those bought token with original priced tp.
Its not like they can even sell those new tokens for 500k. Half price token will lead to half the price in the market too. Also, supply will really rise while demand is still not that big since majority of people still have those 60 day Token (I still have mine) plus the free 7-days.
I know it really is worrying but at the same time depending on how much you bought the token in the market, you wonât even have that big of a profit.
so buying 7-8m silver worth of tokens into 2k TP isnt a big profit huhâŠ
Why canât they just refund people who bought token off the market with another 30day un-tradable token???
Its harder to implement, but it is the most fair way
Token went half price, 198TP now = 60day, give them 30day more per token
This way they canât exploit getting TP with silverâŠ
This is why in FFXIV, Square-Enix waits until the servers go down to post ANY information regarding the economy so that players donât rush to exploit the market.
Still, I just canât see this as that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Even if a few people profit then whatever. Iâd also like to point out that the few people who are profiting are profiting off the market, meaning itâs wealth that already exists in the game, other players are buying their tokens. This canât really contribute to inflation at all.
I feel like no matter what IMC does, people are going to be unhappy. So when people are going to be unhappy no matter what you do, why do anything at all? It would be best to appreciate IMC actually doing SOMETHING rather than rallying against every decision they make. Think before you complain, âIs it really THAT big of a deal? Should I waste precious minutes/hours/days out of my already limited lifespan to voice my concerns about it? Is it going to matter at all? Is it going to completely ruin my ability to have fun with the game?â
Iâm glad Iâm not a game developer. I am totally good with that career choice.
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Is 7mil silver a lot to you guys?
There is no loophole since nobody knew this was gonna happen and when they did, token prices flew up to match their new worth. Those people who invested early silver into tokens, knowing that they would be untradable, will probably use their TP on something smarter than buying tokens and selling them (like a lot of you guys seem to do) for some chump change.
Stop selling tokens for silver guys and learn the market. 7mil isnt a lot. Its worth less than 7 attribute points for me >.>
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Hate to point out that your statement actually implies that people did in-fact gobble up tokens immediately from the market after it was announced, meaning that while the loophole canât be done now since tokens are @900k+ (and sold later for 350-400k post-patch), it certainly already has been taken advantage of =P
I think a cap to the retroactive discount on TP would be best as OP suggested. Players who sought to take advantage of the announcement, or still are looking to in some fashion, wonât profit immensely, and players who stocked up for the sake of stocking up will still receive some free and unexpected TP =)