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Tree of Savior's Next Top Moderator - The Forum Volunteer Edition

We need someone to do what @Staff_Julie did

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Hum~ I’m not really for it. Because I’ve been in this role before and it was more troubles than anything, really. Because people are childish.
It’s like what Strawberry said.

I started as a basic moderator, but then I was kind of ā€œpromotedā€ to be the boss right under the official staff, and it was terrible.
Power trips, thinking they’re better than the others, scaring the community, unable to stay neutral, saying fake info they didn’t double check, and all this kind of crazy things.
To that you also add, at some point, fights between moderators. And then instead of focusing 100% of your moderating time to moderate correctly you have to deal with intern childish issues, and even the official staff ends up being dragged into it.
Even if people were tested before, and all, I don’t know, some people at some point would just suddenly turn into douches. It’s when the power hit their head, I guess.

Volunteers don’t have any training, and since it’s not an actual job they don’t truly care about being ā€œfiredā€ or anything.

I’m not totally against it, but in my opinion it’s too ā€œdangerousā€ and could finish to destroy the forum.
They totally need to hire real professional staff though. It’s more than urgent.

I understand that you guys think it’s a need because we got nothing else better for now, and it’s sinking. But I’m just not sure. I’ve lost my trust in volunteers.
They’d need anyway some official staff to take care of those moderators, and I doubt they have the spare staff to do that.

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While I do appreciate the thoughts that most of these responses have, I still stand by what I’ve said before. I think some extra hands are needed. Instead of saying why it doesn’t work, how about suggesting some additional measures instead? This is the suggestion forum.

I would love to see other ideas instead of just nos/negativity/bad ideas.

@Goldie I agree that I would like to see more active posting and moderation from the staff. It would be really nice. Right now I suppose that many of them are fairly busy with the server database merge stuff, that’s all I can think it could be. I’m hoping we get a fix for the event bug going around right now -_-; I’d like to actually be able to get the title at the end of it.

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I once saw a forum burst into flame and become dust, because the trust was put in unpaid mods…

The Staff is fine as it is, hell I would say they still have too much power and I hope they stay on the good side of the line forever…

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I fully support having community mods that come from the player base. The amount of people violating the ToS on the forums alone is beyond the scope that can be dealt with by a few people. However, I think it should be a decision made by the dev team, not players, due to the likely abuse a player poll would result in.

Side Note: Player moderators are fairly common in MMOs and I can’t stop myself from laughing at the peeps acting like it’s some bizarre notion that’s never been done before and ruins games.

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Agreed.At least with a system like this we’d have official communication in easy to understand English,more frequent replies from mods/staff,and less rule breaking posts,which would likely result in higher morale.

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#This 2 cents (TL:DR) are proudly sponsored by a panda knight with an arsonist mindset and shyts half digested coffee beans 24/7…

@moderators … Please consider the top suggestion…
Thank you very much.


Not that they dun’t care…majority of them are not fluent in English and have no clue how to translate or let alone understand what we are writing…which is kinda of a joke tbh…

so i’m guessing that they assume the safest way to answer these queries are copy pasting answers XD…


I’ll prob ditch that idea …the rest are fine though.

I’d rather leave the in game stuff to them

Reasons

  • You will somehow be representing IMC regardless if ur a volunteer or not…and ppl might pressure you for answers with regards to this…as if the forums weren’t bad enough…seeing the latest bugs exploit…I’d rather not get into the heat of it…

  • POWER TRIPS…with that much power in your hands…one can succumb to such temptations…
    .Same applies to in game events…i think u can figure this out XD like what Strawberry mentioned

[quote=ā€œStrawberry, post:14, topic:314368ā€]The last thing we need on these forums is a power trip
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  • Time,effort and planning…without the $$$$…
    Don’t forget about you require time and effort to plan and host in game events…and as a volunteer ur not gonna get paid too.You mostly gonna require to also submit those events prob to IMC probably to get their approval and the permission to host it…

I agree fully on this…

But that up to whether IMC wants to implement this system… and how they gonna pick a volunteer moderator / game sage.

So far i can only see them making bad decisions after bad decisions… so its hard to tell…

How they manage this…its all in their hands…this is coming from their concerned and die hard fans after all… the ball is their court. and its all up to them to decide


This… cause half the time im lmao with the replies tbh…

And he/she also acts as a representative of the forums where the mods can communicate with.This will optimize the time needed to go through the forums and also the translation time.

This will also ensure that issues regarding the game and players concerns can be collected and translated to the relevant team/department in their HQ so that a QnA can be drafted asap to answer to their community.


I won’t blame them… most of them troll to vent their frustration with regards to how the game is being managed and the direction where the game is heading…if there was a direction that is.

#Though there are some trolls…who troll for their own entertainment…and i gotta admit … i tend to sometimes cause it curbs my sadistic lust…

Hueeuhehuehuehuee

Worst of all are the blind white knights… no seriously… WTF???

But lets face it… this game population is slowly deteriorating… i’ve been monitoring it myself and its a fact…

Hype is one thing… and a games population naturally goes down after people start to find that the game does not suit their taste… But after 3-5 months what it remains usually are the fans/players whom has taken an interest in it…

Take a look at the period in steam charts where they open their gates to new players… u’ll figure out your self. =p

There are to many flaws/bugs/exploits that needs to be addressed in this game…though thats up to IMC… but forum moderation is a must … and some of us (not me) are willing to take up the challenge.

But yes…your reasons still stands… we definitely need to moderate/(but not fully dictate) this type of threads as it impacts the views of newcomers.


Seriously?? Playing the race card?? Everyone is anon over here mate… no one knows ā– ā– ā– ā–  until u reveal your race to them


#Pros:

  • Free labor?!? (Why fucking not)
  • Representative of the forum/game players
  • Assist the staff with moderating the forums…
  • Entertain the community (Whether its is just a friendly discussion or through forum event)
  • Assist the staff to address some issues brought up by the community

#Cons:

  • Power…Fcking…Abuse…(Cause why not)
  • Misleading the community …whether its intentional or not

…
Can’t think of anything else.

I’m going back to play Blade(Boob) and Souls.

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XD Just a note… that part about in game duties and stuff is what I was refering to from Aeriagames. I think I point that out at some point, but a few people didn’t see it. I’ll go back and edit the post to make that a little more clear. @_@

Edit: Fixed, I think.

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Honestly, I would rather see more in-game mods (whether they are volunteers or not) than forum mods. At the end of the day, we play the game, not the forums

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First of all… OP is talking about volunteer forum mods…

2nd of all… there is a need to moderate the forums… and with a volunteer to moderate the forums… they can concentrate more of their manpower into fixing the game rather then reading and answering everyones gdamm questions… regardless of copy pasting

Do you even read before replying?

Here have my like

I’m completely aware my post is a huge hors-sujet. It’s just an opinion that gives no value to the OP but we all feel it, so I had to say it

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I’m not against that sort of thing though. It’s just I know a of folks feel that’s very easily abused/gets preferential treatment ect. I’ve worked customer service, in the gaming industry and as a teacher over the years. These kinds of jobs/volunteer situations aren’t as easy or fun or as easy to abuse as a lot of folks are suggesting but having someone to line up or verify say… bug reports? So that the GMs just have to go banhammer them? That frees up a good bit of time.

Not to mention helping monitor threads for problems that need escalated during off hours, and having individuals who can open up an extra line between players and the staff sometimes is really handy.

I’m trying not to say a whole lot because I don’t want to sound super biased or that I think I’m the person for this kind of job. It’s merely a suggestion to help with the overflow here on the forums (or in game, as I stated I’m personally not against that) even if it was just temporary.

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Don’t know if this idea is sill up, is it @Rabbit?

Just wanted to say that I full-heartedly support all of this. Yes, there are a few points to discuss regarding ā€œSuperPowerbelieveMOD!ā€ and such, but I think all of them are manageable.

I’d rather have these forums moderated by Staffs from OUR community than by the current IMC Staff.

COMM Staffs would be much more effective in being active dealing with daily problems and replying threads here and there. All of this eventually would sum up to create a more reliable atmosphere around here.

So, +1 cheers to that.

Oh and I apologize for acting like a wacko the past few days. Was very frustrated. I’m sorry. (ā—ž ‸ ā—Ÿć†€)

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