Tree of Savior Forum

Thoughts on IMC restrictions from an ex-Goldseller:

They dont have, thats why their squealing is proportional to the pain they took. Probably is just an overstatement.

How can botters pass that? They simply cant, now if you cant give evidence to what you claim, doesnt that just proves how stupid you are?

nah i dont think so, they are probably doing this with multiple clients so a little loss here and there isnt that big of a deal, and you have to remember they are botting, so they basically get silver for doing nothing, in unlimited numbers

i dont think they are having a hard time at all, probably once anti cheat mechanisms are in place it will be a bit harder, but programmers can crack anything these days :frowning:

Bots can pass that anti cheat, theyre sophisticated already, the battle ground is not on the access of bots into the server, IMC already wagged their white flag their. They bring the intersection on the market by filter their transaction and limit their movement. If they make another solution for botter to access the server im pretty sure botters can find another way.

It’s pitiful that you can’t even understand the logic of what I said. Legit players able to sell easy to farm mats for high price is a possible gold seller method too. If legit players are not banned for this, then it is a loophole and can be abused by gold-sellers.

Wow, I just had to explain it. Clearly shows how low your IQ is for such simple explanations to not go through your thick skull.

If you look back at his posts; that doesn’t become so pitiful. It becomes outright hilarious.

4 Likes

welp i just proved with my own case that it doesnt work, you can still funnel some one silver over time :innocent:,

once a client pays they are committed to getting their in-game currency, so i dont think the time waiting for the silver to come through matters at all really.

on the opposite side gold sellers are botting 24/7 so basically they have infinite silver and dont care how much of it is lost through the 30% - 10% tax, or if they miss buy an item.

Oh god there’s so much wrong with this thread now.

I’m not going to comment on any of the name calling or attacking. However, one post caught my eye.[quote=“yodish92, post:115, topic:184117”]
it works

i gave silver to my friend doing what gold sellers do lol, big loss on my part but idgaf, since ive got the money to spare and i love my friend, even though hes a nooblord.
[/quote]

You’re not a gold seller. Your play history will reveal that. This is not proof that their method works or doesn’t work. It is possible that you did find the loophole. It is also possible that IMC determined that you indeed a legitimate player, and allowed your transaction to take place.

its less possible that they actually checked my play history or anything like that lol

its not like they are checking people 24/7 they might find some but i don think they will find all, besides, if a botter gets banned they can just make another account and bot all the silver back again to be given over in X days.
or they can use one of the other numerous accounts they have running =/

there also exists the possibility of people not doing quests or whatever because they just like to grind, determining something so intangible is futile imo.

I agree with everything you’ve said. I was just pointing out that there isn’t just one conclusion that can be drawn from your, uh, experiment.

@Pappus , what do you think about criminalizing the gold buyers instead? Since IMC can easily track down individual sellers by saving the transactions and automatically flagging up those with exceptionally high or low price, and if it happens from the same account often, or if the same item was sold back and forth for different price between two accounts, or the level difference of the buyer and the item’s requirement, for example. What do you think if IMC starts to ban their customers and leaving the seller accounts intact for now for easier tracking? Maybe not permanently, depending on how severe case and how many times the player was caught before.

I bet the majority of players would be pleased and applaud every time they hear some cheater getting banned and possibly future customers would be too scared to take the risk. Do you think this wouldn’t work either?

like all experiments its was out of love XD
anways my intention was never to “evade” IMC’s machinations
just wanted to give money to my friend lol.
i didnt even think i would get banned since what i did doesn’t seem ban worthy.

oh yea, an afterthought i had, was that the seller(gold buyer) crafts an item then tags it with a name or memo, making it 100% easier for the buyer(gold seller) to find, shoulda did that with my friend so i didn’t get miss buys lol.

Yup, just couldn’t think of an appriopriate word at the time

@Nyyppa I believe that’s the stance IMC is taking with the current restrictions. Publicizing the RMT bans would probably greatly lift the morale of the playerbase :slight_smile:

You also presented some nice examples of what a flagged transaction would look like. Really nice post. I’d like it twice if I could.

Nice topic, hope IMC do something…

My question in general is if there is some way to really hurt the bots, so we can make the RMT life a little harder and cleaning the maps in the process.

Don’t know how hard would be to detect or restrict bot behaviors.

[Edit] Other thing that came on my head recently… Could mmos in general get some benefit with a currency system like Path of Exile? Not having money like gold, silver or whatever name, but trading with special itens that can also be used to craft/enchant gear.

I’m not hard into PoE and don’t know how RMT works there tho…

what im wondering about the most is, why this game?
why are goldsellers sooo interested in this game?
is the same stuff happening to blade and soul?
to black desert?
i just dont get it what attracts them to this game in particular

its new, its popular and it has a pedigree what else could it be lol.

Its an mmo rpg… thats why… Gold sellers sell it on evey single game they can enter. One person can run multiple accounts on the same machine, with stoled credit cards.
Basically ToS is just another game to make profit.

Once the “buyer” gets a token, it would no longer be traceable on the market.

Filthy? That’s one high horse you’re on. At the end of you life, you become ash/dirty… the very filth that makes things filthy.