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Templar Path, what lies after the Tower?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hello people,

I have been searching about templar builds around the forum and most of them follow one of these paths:

Tank
Sword C1 > Pelt C2 > Rodelero C2 > ??? > Templar

Tank-Utility
Sword C1 > Pelt C3 > Squire C2 > Templar

Mounted
Sword C1 > Pelt C1 > Hoplite C1 > Cata C3 > Templar

I want to start a discussion, what do you guys preffer and why?
How do you see the build in the future? (Maybe with supositions for Rank 8 -9)
Finally what build you recomend

I will go first:

I think templars for the moment are at their best with high mobility, they can rush forward, call guild members, destroy. However that is not how I will see templar in the future.
Probably you remember the Centurion class, announced in the early times of beta and “acessible” in iCTB2 if you edited some scripts. Well it’s a lot of speculution, but I do think that the synergy is so high, that this class was made just for templars. Anyway, with that in mind, I think templars need to be tanky to perform great at centurion class, so that is what I aiming for it my build bellow:

What are your opinions? :smiley:

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#2

I’ll start from the beginning.

==>Tank Build

Fencer. The only missing choice here. Full tank build would be Sword - Pelta2 - Rode2 - Fencer2, but since we ware taking Templar here, we sacrifice one Circle for this. It’s still great.
You are a comitted tank, capable to protect from both physical and magical damage on top of Fencer complimenting to these choices and giving you Evasion with more damage.

==>Tank\Utility

Rather poor choice. Only C2 Squire is already very bad, because of insane taxes and mundane skills (C3 is better, that’s what all Squires are aiming for).
Then you have Pelta3, which can contribute to Guild defence, but you will have absolutely no damage and you still can’t protect from magical attacks. Leveling this without a party is also a pain.

==>Mounted

Another good choice for Templar being Cata. High mobility along with Cata’s skills and defensive tactics will make you a great addition to the party.
For more PvE oriented stuff I advise to go with Pelta2. For more oriented PvP you can stay as it is, as Hoplite will contibute to this combination, albeit only a little.

How do I see this build in the future:

There is a rumor, that Centurion will be a hidden Rank 6 class. If that’s the case, the optimal build for Templar would be:

Sword - PeltaC1 - HopliteC3 - Centurion - Templar

Now not only Centurion contributes immensely to Templar as a Guild leader, it also provides Peltasta with further defence tactics enhancing.
It has a variety of them for every possible situation, which is incredibly important in positioning and GvG or World Boss Hunting specifically.
You become not only the leader of the Guild, but a true leader, who rules everywhere - from Guild to battlefield.
Hoplite takes care of the damage aspect of this build. It’s single target-oriented, but with Centurion’s formations and party help this problem is solved too.

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#4

You need hoplite if you want to use one handed spears. So unless you are going to be switching back and forth from 2h spear to shield, I wouldn’t recommend pelt2>cata3.

#5

I might be wrong, but as far as I know, none of centurion skills could be used while mounted

Dragoon skills while mounted?:

Again, the class isn’t released yet… So maybe this is not totally true.

#6

No one forbids him to use 1H Sword + Shield with 2H Spears. And Weapon Swap is automatic now too.
PeltaC2 is taken for heavy PvE concentration, as a mean to defence for the party.

I imagine, if we someday finally hit all 10 classes, it’s build would be something like…

SwordC1 - PeltaC2 - HopliteC3 - Centurion - Templar - RodeleroC2.

For the ultimate damaging tank ruling on the battlefield through Shield and Spear.

#7

who knows maybe lancer will be a 1 hand spear and shield class with defensive skills would be interesting.

as for Templar I am thinking maybe Sword C1- Pelta C1- Hoplite 2/3 - Cataphract 1/2 - Templar but im not sure if its worth getting Cataphract for only 1 or 2 ranks or going down Corsair once and doppel once or going to Hop 3 and doppel 1.

#8

It’s CataC3 or no Cata. C3 has Rush and Trot uptimed, which is already enough. Same with Hoplite, except some specific cases, because of Spear Throw spam.

So, Sword - Pelta2 - Hoplite3 - Templar is another variation of tankish damage Templar build.

Totally forgot about Lancer, thanks. We shall see what it can do.

#9

Personally I choose mounted build because I want to make it too.
I think sw>pel2>cata3 build will be forced to only block when using shield because cata skills can’t be used without spear and when switched to 2h spear block rate will be zero. So I think sw>pel>hop is better because it has capability to tank and damaging at the same time meaning better agro keeping.
It’s different for Dragoon build because they can wield 1h spear with Dragoon attribute.

#10

I’ve been trying to piece together a solid path for Templar as well, was unsure about using Fencer from Peltasta/Rodelero due to their focus on different types of damage, and hearing that damage overall is reduced if you use a rapier with a shield in other posts; though I wasn’t sure if that was confirmed or not.

I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts as to how workable Fencer from the shield classes could still work and how you’d allocate Fencer’s skill points taking into account that only C1 can be utilized.

Furthermore, I have seen a few dissenting views regarding stat point allocation, as to how heavily to favor dex to str, since str seems to scale better into late game, and then trying to keep some measure of con up amid all this in order to maintain tank capability. On that note, I’ve heard that spr can help for reducing magic damage, though no one seems to explore if sinking some points into the stat would help enough to make it worthwhile for those times you can’t keep slithering going.

Any input regarding this would be appreciated :smiley:

#11

It is confirmed, since Agression increases your Attack only if you don’t have Shield in other hand. But you concentrate on tanking, not attacking, right?

I’ve never heard of such thing about SPR increasing resistance to magic. You mean, status effects, actually. But it needs to be tested.

Fencer favors DEX because of it’s skills, it’s plainly simple.

As for the build, I’ll think of something and PM you later.

#12

every 5 SPR increase Mdef by 1. General consensus - not worth.

#13

I heard you can take it up to 100 for 50% status resistance?

Not really worth it, I agree.

#14

For a tank fencer build, I think 3 : 2 : 1 - Con:Dex:Str will do good.
Fencer don’t really need much Str, and a tank even less…

#15

Right, more concerned with tanking though I didn’t want the class into Fencer to be too gimped for wearing a shield on top of not taking C2 Fencer because of Templar.

This has been my main point of contention with trying to work out what would be ideal between C3 Peltasta, C2 Rodelero / C2 Peltasta, C3 Rodelero / C2 Peltasta, C2 Rodelero, C1 Fencer when leading into Templar overall.

#16

What do you mean by weapon swap is automatic? Do you mean if im using 2H sword and trying to use peltasta swash, the weapon will swap automatically?

#17

Yes, that’s exactly what I mean. They implemented this on KToS.

#18

Wow nice, now i can add peltasta in my circle.

#19

How if i go Sword - Pelta C1 - Hop C1 - Cata C3 - Templar??

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I’ll start from the beginning.

==>Tank Build

Fencer. The only missing choice here. Full tank build would be Sword - Pelta2 - Rode2 - Fencer2, but since we ware taking Templar here, we sacrifice one Circle for this. It’s still great.
You are a comitted tank, capable to protect from both physical and magical damage on top of Fencer complimenting to these choices and giving you Evasion with more damage.

==>Tank\Utility

Rather poor choice. Only C2 Squire is already very bad, because of insane taxes and mundane skills (C3 is better, that’s what all Squires are aiming for).
Then you have Pelta3, which can contribute to Guild defence, but you will have absolutely no damage and you still can’t protect from magical attacks. Leveling this without a party is also a pain.

==>Mounted

Another good choice for Templar being Cata. High mobility along with Cata’s skills and defensive tactics will make you a great addition to the party.
For more PvE oriented stuff I advise to go with Pelta2. For more oriented PvP you can stay as it is, as Hoplite will contibute to this combination, albeit only a little.

How do I see this build in the future:

There is a rumor, that Centurion will be a hidden Rank 6 class. If that’s the case, the optimal build for Templar would be:

Sword - PeltaC1 - HopliteC3 - Centurion - Templar

Now not only Centurion contributes immensely to Templar as a Guild leader, it also provides Peltasta with further defence tactics enhancing.
It has a variety of them for every possible situation, which is incredibly important in positioning and GvG or World Boss Hunting specifically.
You become not only the leader of the Guild, but a true leader, who rules everywhere - from Guild to battlefield.
Hoplite takes care of the damage aspect of this build. It’s single target-oriented, but with Centurion’s formations and party help this problem is solved too.
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