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Talking a little more about Multi-accounts

So you rejected my offered question because you didn’t want/didn’t know how to expand the short form “pad” to the long one gamepad (게임 패드)? Are you serious?

Where, in the eula, is it written? If it’s not in the eula, you’re making it up.

No, but that’s not the point. The game is advertised as “vac protected”, so they should(!) issue bans through vac.
They can’t vac ban someone for multiple accounts because Valve allows it and the ban can be easily disputed.

I hope it’s clear now.

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According to @LunarRabbit:
Was @Nicola banned?

  • YES
  • NO

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Firstly, I’m not defending anyone, I only find stupid to rage on multi client, that’s even allowed by the platform, when there are worse problems.

Secondly, Those weren’t my words but I was quoting Schwarznagger/Windows95/TeamSoloSCAR words.

Now I’m really done, have fun with your crusade :hand_splayed:

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No. I just said it is the same as mine. “AFK farming” can’t be read as “botting” in the same way that separating questions and “pad” -> “gamepad” have the same effect.

It is not. But there are ticket answers for so that I already posted in this thread.

They don’t issue bans through VAC. Also, can you give any source that they are forced to?

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6899-IOSK-9514

Explains that:

The game developer is solely responsible for the decision to apply a game ban. Valve only enforces the game ban as instructed by the game developer.

Which seems clear, the developer is solely responsible for issuing a VAC game ban and request the ban.

I’m not raging. I’m just replying to each of them. I have my opinion: it isn’t allowed, I have a ticket showing: it isn’t allowed and an example of a player banned: so it isn’t allowed. Is this raging? o.o

My first topic on this thread:

Then again:

Then:

And the hues started replying to me over and over. I’m not crusading against multi-client afk farming, I’m just answering, in the same way I can’t be sure aside from ticket and Mergen’s case that it isn’t allowed, it could be a misinterpretation from me at any time, same for them.

The same way you tell I can’t say that it isn’t allowed, they can’t say it is allowed (since the tickets have different answers for the same issue). Again, either get a staff to make a proper post (what I said since the first posts) or send a proper question to them and post here.

So again, who is crusading? Me or the hues/etc for the profit/gitgud sake?

AFK Farming = you are not at the computer = could be interpreted as botting
using gamepad = you are actively playing

If you can’t tell the difference, it’s your problem.

Then you are making it up.

Because if they don’t issue bans by vac, it is false advertising and the game can be removed for that.

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lol what? false advertising for deciding to not ban people? really? that does not make any sense.

maybe it’s steam policy…

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Then make yourself your own ticket instead of quoting one for me to send to then add offensive comments to your answers based on your own quoted phrase.

And make sure to not split the questions.

You pretty much understand that it is pretty clear that the devs knows about AFK farming = necro farming.

As well your ticket should also cover AFK farming when using multiple clients at the same time since it is one of the main points of the discussion (and this topic).

Look threads up, want me to copy again and again the same ticket answer?

Ban without vac-ban from CS:GO itself. So are they doing false advertising for VAC Bans?

Anyway, I’m out ~

(And Mergen didn’t whisper me and there are still Tokens in the market.)

You asked for help, now you complain I replied.

That’s your assumption. @gm_Francis said that, after investigation, a botter was a “Legitimate player”.
I guess that, quoting @gm_francis, blatant botting = legitimate playing.

Your ticket says a thing, the other person ticket says another. There’s a misunderstanding somewhere and you are assuming it’s not on yours.

Also, do you know that many people do not even read forums? Do you know that the only things they read is the EULA shown upon playing the game for the first time?

If it’s not in the Eula, it’s allowed until such a change is made.
Multiboxing with key replication is already not allowed since it requires 3rd party programs/devices, anything else is pure conjecture.

False advertising to… advertise a game as vac protected when it is not.

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what’s up wellington! lmao! idk why but I find your name hilarious, no offence rofl. good job on covering your name though! :joy:

200 post for something obvious

  • multi account is not allowed
    (imc cannot prove anyway, so why bother, unless u make haukinyau0 haukinyau1 haukinyau2 with same ip, thats obvious)
  • afk farm is allowed
  • any 3rd party software/hardware that IMC deem disturbing the game is not allowed
    (again, unless imc can prove it, otherwise, its a gitgud race)

tldr ; if u wanna play TOS by the line, gitgud or anything, be prepared to be reported and subject to IMC’s judgement.

IMC wont do things actively, mr kim said its too inefficient to do this themselves.
(based on my memory… i read somewhere 2016 dev blog or something)
IMC rely on player report.

No Report, No Problem.

get it?

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We get it… gitgud.

IMC’s judgement is so broken, you better avoid it. Or they force you to quit.

And to fix something for you: No Players, No Report, No Problem, get it?

huehuehue

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Was that you or one of your grandmothers? How can we be sure it’s recent? Can you go to the special even board and activate it? I need to see more proof a well… I’m starting to think my hero Mergen was nothing but an RMT / multi-client phony. Please don’t let my hero die. :smirk:

Will Mergen show definitive proof that she is in fact not banned?

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  • No

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What’s stopping players to do just that if they can actually play using multiple rigs.
The skill hotkey script is literally in the game and editable, anyone can re-configure it to play with just one arcade joystick pad in each hand(kek).
A computer rental shop(much more common at SEA) owner can have dozens of PCs under the same ip go online at reset just to religiously bot scripted to do daily 130/145dg silver run, switch to alt kill mobs somewhere afk 30min, logout, and IMC won’t even know the difference from a normal player.

If you ask me what’s happening here in the thread is just you trying to apply your own moral standards to this game. Imo(and I mean no offense) you’re no different to preaching SJWs, you’re just a one man rally right now, unlike the anit-Leticia cube thread that showed a hefty amount players voicing their discontent.


As you said at an earlier post, a staff needs to clearly tell the ‘do’s and don’ts’ about usage of multiple account/computers, then again IMC probly didn’t plan any rules from the start else we’ve probly seen it already from the start.


here, I’ll help on the summoning call
@STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Max @STAFF_Yuri @hkkim

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Poll time!

Will any of these GMs reply and provide clarification?

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  • No

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TLDR — IMC can say “no, it’s not allowed”, but if players still keep doing it without being severely punished the practice will persist.

It’s even truer now that IMC can’t risk doing ban waves and losing more players considering the population leak they have. That, or maybe they’re earning enough from kTOS and jTOS that it won’t really matter what happens to iTOS.

If you can’t beat 'em, join 'em.

TOS in a nutshell.

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IMC hasn’t done anything in almost a year over this issue.
Why should they start caring now?
They can afford to lose players on a weekly, monthly basis because they have their mobile version coming up soon to make up for any loss profits.

Even if R9 got released, R10 news gets hyped, old players won’t be coming back to get IMC’ed by the same old sheeit. One account or 100 accounts, it’s still going to really be ONE actual player… and he/she alone won’t be doing much to save the actual player base population. Can you imagine a marketplace where it’s just the same 5-10 folks trading, buying and selling among themselves?

Whalers can keep on whaling with their wallets and keep the servers alive for themselves and casual pleb leeches :slight_smile:

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Like I already said:

This is why you don’t see anyone else really posting here.

If you ask me what is happening in this thread:

  1. I have a problem and I talk too much instead of staying quiet.
  2. People who don’t even play the game posts things to counter the content of a ticket from support. (?)
  3. Since no other “this is allowed” ticket is posted, this was already a moral discussion for both sides.
  4. I’m right now an “one man army” because: IMC won’t really put rules into enforcing, people don’t want to lose time discussing (is this whole thing even worth being called a discussion?) this this way, some people who doesn’t play anymore keeps posting against my posts because whatever reason.
  5. I’m not the only one with the same opinion nor the only one who got “not allowed answers from IMC”.

But then I’m way tired of these pointless discussions with hues and whatever at all (not only this post, read more below), so, good bye ToF drama.

You know pretty much, for example, that I don’t keep posting if there’s no base for that, but guess what? The same people (really, the same), goes and keep trolling/etc or make it in a way so that I’m talking ■■■■ or talking too much or against the world.

So, simply, I’m out for this and for:
Mergen for some random reason doesn’t want to prove that him is banned or not, but I’ll take my own word because IMC really won’t do anything.

And because seems I am annoying good people more than helping. So, no point being around here, see you ~

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I need more whales selling Tokens D: not enough for me to buy on the market.

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Why does mergen need to prove anything to you, who do you think you are?

I agree with this, you think you can convince everyone else with your opinions by spamming in every thread non-stop.

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