Stop the speculation and rants

[iago_l]

Yes, by making all the mobs respawn 10 times slower than usual. What’s the point if you can login, when you spend 80% of the time waiting for mobs to respawn?

What does that have to do with the overcrowded servers?

Not in Korea.

Yes, that’s true. But the game is different, and different changes are going to happen to both servers. Nexon is running kTOS, IMC is running iTOS. We can already see such changes with character balance and dungeon runs.

So basically you see nothing wrong with the current economy?

No, I don’t. Everything Token related is just a bad argument to me, cause I think that any players that plays the game for a week will be able to buy a Token for themselves. Ask any kTOS players if they had to spend a dime on the game. Actually, the only real problem I find with the current Market System is the 2 days delay to retrieve money.
All these rants regarding trade restrictions are generated mostly by fear of change.

The difference is the engineer of real life product is actually more professional and will not release their product until it’s fully tested to be free of severe problem

You’re now comparing problems regarding real life products to problems regarding online games. The only actual severe problem this game had since launch was the unexpecting amount of buyers right before the server’s launch in a low period of time that couldn’t be detected before the launch, resulting in some players not being able to access the game. And that has been fixed in 2 days.
What game breaking bugs? Cause honestly, I haven’t found one. Dungeons have been unstable, but I still have been able to access them. They know about the problem, and ranting won’t lead you anywhere, they said they’re working on it.

Do you expect your Windows to randomly shut down because MS didn’t tested enough an update ? No.

Wat, any OS shut downs the application b4 such thing happens, try running an infinite loop in a simple C program.

Being “passive” regarding the game’s issues is never a good solution.

I’m not being passive, I’m telling people to give constructive feedback and properly report problems instead of ranting, because rants won’t help anyone and will definely not be heard by the developers.

[Mirarara]

Implying not being able to play from time to time with no permanent solution isn’t a game breaking bug.

Top kek

Edit: I’m just realized I’m being an idiot for replying to a sarcastic post.

[lancelyn91]

What does that have to do with the overcrowded servers?

A lot.
Servers are overloaded -> people complain they can’t log in -> IMC decides to change how often mobs spawn to decrease the load on the servers -> in consequence, servers are able to accomodate more players, the queues are shorter, only drawback is that the spawn rate is downright ridiculously slow now.

Yes, that’s true. But the game is different, and different changes are going to happen to both servers. Nexon is running kTOS, IMC is running iTOS. We can already see such changes with character balance and dungeon runs.

You fail to see the big picture. Both KR and international players are complaining about the same problems that are present in every version of the game, and what happens next? It gets completely ignored. In consequence, KR players are boycotting playing ToS and it’s been reported by many that the leveling zones are now more empty than ever, which I can personally confirm from playing KR client recently.

No, I don’t. Everything Token related is just a bad argument to me, cause I think that any players that plays the game for a week will be able to buy a Token for themselves. Ask any kTOS players if they had to spend a dime on the game. Actually, the only real problem I find with the current Market System is the 2 days delay to retrieve money.All these rants regarding trade restrictions are generated mostly by fear of change.

You’re so ignorant on so many levels, I am at a loss for words.

1. Token prices are in millions silver now in KR. For new players, to reach that much silver it takes much longer than a week. Most new players won’t play long enough to accumulate that much silver, because they will be turned off by the fact that they can’t even trade with their friends or guildmates.
   The current restrictions will drive away a lot of new players. You see nothing wrong with that?

2. You see nothing wrong with the fact that you can only trade 30 times a month, and that includes trading items through Team Storage?
   I can only imagine you’re too antisocial to use the direct trade feature in MMORPG.

3. The trade limitation does nothing to stop goldsellers. It only serves the purpose of milking players for something that’s completely free in any other MMORPG. You see nothing wrong with that?

4. The current market system makes it impossible to play the market. For many people, me included, playing the market game is one of the most important end-game features of any MMORPG. You obviously don’t care about it because this problem doesn’t affect you.

I’m not being passive, I’m telling people to give constructive feedback and properly report problems instead of ranting, because rants won’t help anyone and will definely not be heard by the developers.

It’s your personal problem if you see all arguments as “ranting”. People have been doing constructive criticisms for a long time now, and what happened? Most of that was ignored and never even replied to by the staff.

[Mirarara]

He is just being sarcastic lol.

[gorathff]

3. The trade limitation does nothing to stop goldsellers. It only serves the purpose of milking players for something that’s completely free in any other MMORPG. You see nothing wrong with that?

1. Oh please. Grow up.

2. Do you really think IMC or any company make any buisness desicions based on retarded kid’s rants on forums? Newsflash: new servers were opened only AFTER steam sales in regions went up, until that kids were ranting all they want no one cared.

[lancelyn91]

Oh please. Grow up.

Elaborate why you think so?

Do you really think IMC or any company make any buisness desicions based on retarded kid’s rants on forums? Newsflash: new servers were opened only AFTER steam sales in regions went up, until that kids were ranting all they want no one cared.

First of all, elaborate why you think it’s a “retarded kid’s rant”.
Second of all, your reply has nothing to do with what you quoted. Lol.

[robofawn]

So i guess we should all just stay silent? If nobody voices their concerns nothing will change. I’m a customer of the game, so i will complain until things are fixed. The company will make decisions based on their consumers. If they wanna earn more money, they should listen to their consumer population.

[gorathff]

1. You didnt mistook ToS for a charity project i hope? Any attempt to “blame” developers that they want money from players is retarded. This IS buisness by definition, otherwise game couldnt exist. If you dont like current buisness model thats yor problem.
2. “retarded kid’s rant” is retarded. No one saying that the game doesnt have any problems, but your ranting and whining doesnt make it better. If you have anything to say, say it in a calm and constructive way. Your hysteric cries about how this world unfair and IMC wont FedEx their employee to you asap to wipe your tears and bottom not only helping but also not very original. I’ve seen this crap since 2004 WoW/EQ2 launch and every major game i played since.

[lancelyn91]

You didnt mistook ToS for a charity project i hope? Any attempt to “blame” developers that they want money from players is retarded. This IS buisness by definition, otherwise game couldnt exist. If you dont like current buisness model thats yor problem.

And this “business model” is what’s driving players away from the game. Really good model if you ask me.

“retarded kid’s rant” is retarded. No one saying that the game doesnt have any problems, but your ranting and whining doesnt make it better. If you have anything to say, say it in a calm and constructive way. Your hysteric cries about how this world unfair and IMC wont FedEx their employee to you asap to wipe your tears and bottom not only helping but also not very original. I’ve seen this crap since 2004 WoW/EQ2 launch and every major game i played since.

Another guy who takes any kind of complaints about a game as “ranting”.
Go and look through the forums again, you will find hundreds of posts from many different people that are constructive criticisms. The only problem is, our voice is being blatantly ignored.

[gorathff]

The only problem is, our voice is being blatantly ignored.

I thought i just explained it to you?
Ok let me spell it: Your voice being ignored because it is worthless. Not because of who you are (no one cares really), but because in terms of gathering statistic for developers, you playing, clicking, trying to log into game provides way more data than any of your posts. That the first part.
Second is because for every 1 constructive, meaningful post, there is a hundred of worthless kid’s rant garbage of posts that contain nothing new at best.

[lancelyn91]

Ok let me spell it: Your voice being ignored because it is worthless. Not because of who you are (no one cares really), but because in terms of gathering statistic for developers, you playing, clicking, trying to log into game provides way more data than any of your posts. That the first part.

So you’re trying to say that only in-game statistics are worth anything, and anything people write on the forums is worthless?
Certainly you do not understand the fact that some things need to be written down to explain how serious the problem is.

Second is because for every 1 constructive, meaningful post, there is a hundred of worthless kid’s rant garbage of posts that contain nothing new at best.

Describe what a “worthless kid’s rant garbage of post” is.
Personally I think most people who voiced their opinion about the game’s problems on the forums did it in a constructive way.

[celexample]

Just play the game

That’s just it. I can’t.

Server’s lag.

They crash.

Dungeon queue broken.

Channels crash randomly.

Quests take 5 minutes to accept / return.

Gold spammers freeze game for 10 seconds.

I can’t transfer to EU server.

Missed 3 dungeon runs due to Klaipeda server crashing.

Didn’t redeem compensation and it disappeared despite having expiration set for late April.

My class combo is falling off.

I didn’t make a cookie cutter / op class.

[elysium]

I’m telling people to give constructive feedback and properly report problems instead of ranting, because rants won’t help anyone and will definely not be heard by the developers.

Dude.

This has already been done. For the past 6 months.

iCBT1 - Reported ‘constructively’.
iCBT2 - Reported ‘constructively’ again.
kOBT - Pretty angry, but yeah, alright, I’ll let it slide, releases can be understandably rough especially if you are rushing the product.
kTOS - Okay, you look like you’re fixing stuff, good. Now make sure you DO NOT bring over the same problems that we have repeatedly been telling you

iTOS - Lesson not learnt apparently. Shitstorm ensues.

This just goes to show that the company is terribly understaffed (which I don’t blame them) and full of incompetent people that just won’t get their ■■■■ together and make good decisions for the game (which I do blame them for).

I’ve been ‘reporting constructively’ for the past 6 months. The company doesn’t learn. I’ve seen so many ranting threads, but unlike you, I don’t make an ‘anti-rant’ thread to complain about those threads. You know why? Because it has reached the point that I would actually say that it is warranted.

The fact that the game is already being monetized shows that SOME level of quality has to be delivered. With so many ‘anti-rant’ threads like these popping up, IMC will continue to ignore all the constructive feedback because they know there will always be blind fans who defend them no matter what.

You are part of the problem man.

[lemaitre_dulotus]

Bookmarked.
This is actually a pretty good post explaining why it’s currently legitimate to rant.

I’ve been ‘reporting constructively’ for the past 6 months.

Kudos to you for that. Back in iCBT2, I quickly came to the thought that it was a farce…

[Tinuva]

Cant play, characters locked out due to commander bug.

[Sphinctus]

Absolutely blows my mind how people can defend the trade system at all whatsoever.

There’s a certain type of person that will defend ANY opinion, no matter how insane just because people are against said opinion.

Everyone posting loves this game, we just cannot deal with the restrictions. All my friends quit already, and many people are doing the same.

[robofawn]

Yeah exactly, its because i like the game that i criticize it. I want i to be a success. There won’t be any game if we don’t take a stance.