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Spear Throw Hoplite 3

Hi,

im leveling a hoplite 3 -> X -> Dragoon 2 and im wondering how strong is that Spear Throw Skill . Is it worth to max it? I saw in some builds that ppl only put 1 point in it.

Any suggestions?

I was told, in my own hoplite thread, by @jr_batenga that spear throw is quite good.

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If you max it, it’s pretty good. With a +5 Geras Spear and 40 levels in its attribute, I hit for approx 33k on leather targets @ 212.

I haven’t checked how much it does with DoV5 and Spear Lunge up, but it should be approx. 50k or so.

You can expect something along the lines of 15-20k with average gear. It basically replaces your auto-attack.

Spear Throw has zero cooldown, three true multi-hits, +3 AAR so it’s good for mobbing and as a filler skill on boss hunt.

DEFINITELY max it, put 5 points into it just so you understand my hoplite doppel is now lvl 205, my spear throw can 30k (10k x3) against leather, it can 24-26k against plate, and 20-22k against cloth, with 0 CD.
You definitely do not want to miss that, almost no other skill can make that kind of damage in these levels.
(btw my spear throw is 65% attribute which is why it reaches such high number and also i’m using an enhanced gears spear) it has amazing synergy with spear lunge.

spear throw is quite really good but I wonder if its viable with pelt-hop3-dopp-shin-murmillo build?

sure why not? definitely don’t miss on it, get a lvl 15 finestra (ofc) lvl 15 synchro thrusting lvl 5 spear throw lvl 1 spear lunge and put rest to stabbing (about 9 points) skip pierce.
Spear throw is too good to skip on honestly.

For PvE? or PvP? swap Dopp for Sair if PvP, otherwise it’s viable tho not optimal.

he was asking about spear throw not the build, spear throw is very viable because its a very strong build.
Don’t confuse him buddy :smiley: his build is alright

I know but, gotta keep in mind tho that SpearThrow is like Fencer Composee it’s meant to be spammed in between skill rotations when when the rest is on cooldown.(also good as mid range combo starter tho risky if bind doesn’t proc)
SyncThrust is the only skill that gets boosted from Murmillo helmet buff, might as well max that and it’s SynThrust:Pierce att.(<damage get quite notable with this)
Also Hop3 is a R5 class circle and thus might likely fall off in terms of damage at later updates.


pelt-hop3-sair-shin-murmillo is a good Arena gladiator setup with SpearThrow:Bind locking any poor target in place after a Hook>Stride or FrenzySlash. Which is why I suggested Sair if he plans to PvP.

i don’t think so, my spear throw at lvl 220+ is making more than 30k damage with 0 CD, this is a lot even for rank 8. Both dps wise and burst wise, in comparison my lancer’s quintain does 40-60k on a 20 CD and less aoe. With spear lunge and finestra hoplite never really falls off, just one of those classes that always remain strong and useful, just like barbarian’s utility.

this is true actually. Seem like a fun build

Can confirm, throw spear is an AMAZING skill. You will not regret getting it.

Really? You have level 15 synchro thrusting? I’m amazed at how much points you invested in it. Is it really that good or would you prefer level 15 stabbing?

no my synchro thrusting is lvl 0, but the person wanted to build a hoplite 3 shinobi murmilo, and for that build you need lvl 15 synchro thrusting for murmilo and shinobi synergy. (shinobi uses that skill with clones, and murmilo increases the damage of that skill by like 300%)
if you don’t go shinobi murmilo, then synchro should be lvl 0. (my stabbing is lvl15)

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Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying.

For Murmillo Pel->Hop3->Sair->Shin->Mur Build, I was wondering why not
Pel->Hop3->Sair->Drag->Murmillo?
You get more spear skills to use like Serpantine and Gae Bulg so your damage doesn’t suffer by being stuck with synchro thrust and kunai?

I was thinking Pel2->Hop3->Drag->Murmillo

That way Pel skills won’t suffer much since they already get a massive 350% boost with High Guard along with Chastis’ 300% boost.

Hoplite with Synchro Thrust, Finestra, and Spear Throw, Dragoon for great spear skills like Serp and Murmillo for offensive tank skills.

clones can copy peltasta skills now. and also synchro thrust… that makes is SO MUCH stronger. dragoon 1 gives less benefit as shinobi for that build cuz clones

definitely dragoon c1 instead of shinobi in that build.

Hi on that note. Do you know a list of skills that clones can copy. Maybe a video or another post? I cant seem to find one

Kunai
Thrust
Bash
Double Slash [Swordsman C3]
Pommel Beat [Swordsman C2]
Umbo Blow [Peltasta C1]
Rim Blow [Peltasta C1]
Crown [Highlander C1]
Moulinet [Highlander C2]
Synchro Thrusting [Hoplite C1]
Shield Bash [Rodelero C2]
Shooting Star [Rodelero C3]
:slight_smile:

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