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Solution for kill bot easy

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#21

iicecube_85,

From close beta 2, alot people tell that beug, unbalanced, no realy grind spot etc

2 at 3 joke or troll tell the game is perfect no need solve ! IMC no listen people or listen 2 clown now they see.

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#22

Those bots or demon are really small impact of what the community wanna know…
From the 1st time we believe imc can kill bots or rmt by implement “TOKEN” that we legal user need to purchase for the sake of bots/rmts…
But till now we still in this thread heavily talking about bots or rmt issue?
Isnt it failed idea that IMC done to tos community even though token have not much issue for bots/rmt to survive?
Those non-token user already been heavily punch badly due to the normal game features have been removed or tweaked in the MMO industry that doesnt work so well.
And this the real picture we are facing all the time…
IMC restricted trade to the limit so that we can have a better gaming due to all this issues and now again we are seeing even more bots/rmt in town or even better shout mode…
Restricted here and there end up was into IMC pockets and we are still puzzling why its happen…

2nd the recent patch launch that allow free to play contents to be play for SEA server and after awhile they mention its will be restricted again for some purpose which is nonsense as the whole server in tos now is full of green bar…
A good decision making is not the way like this to be announce…
How many of friend downloaded the game and yet cant login due to restricted server…

#23

IMC limited alot thing because they fear the bot, if the bot solve, the game will solve ! but atm IMC pach more cach shop then solve anything !

BUT for me the game is in alpha phase no in open beta, better look the game like that, and we are testing, in steam alot game in alpha you need buy or it have a open cach shop like H1Z1, THE SKIE etc.

But IMC need leaning real player and read all feedback close beta 2, many people make good feedback with real argument.

#24

The OP sounds like a bot. .-.

#25

As early i saw, there is one nuts or troll keep posting those stupid advertisment just not long ago, out of curious i went to take a look at the image that was posted which i notice 90% he/she was trying to rage up those RMT seller instead of selling…
The whole image was all those RMTs seller happily selling thing which made me piss off me on how come i bought TOKENs and DLCs just to increase this bots or RMT in the game…

Never really see a MMO till now which in this stage after the diablo 3 incident if those played b4…
The real money trade was wrongly implemented and had been totally removed by blizzard…

#26

Yea,
BUT IMC get real fear from bot, because :slight_smile:

1: In close beta 2 then it have a limited key for go cbt 2 it have more bot then player in close cbt2 how if possible ?

2: when the game be buy to play it have too alot bot !

When blizzard remove the trade money xd, Diablo 3 be broken, any who play or played diablo 3, tell me if you can make a GR 70 bruild melee chars !

Never see a hack $ Slash where you can’t melee dps in gr 80, all go support and only mage it viable for dps, and you have many set, only 1 work or nothing xd.

I m no sure because it removed the trade money, it broken the game !! but that is no a excuse, people is no idiot.

You Right that is no a excuse because bot, you need broken the game !!! IMC listen us.

I m go off see you later.

#27

IMC should consider this, bots can only get exp from fields so removing them below 90 could actually work. Just increase the exp you can get from quest or DG to compensate the removal of exp from fields. Access to DG should be limited to those who had managed to complete certain story lines.

@STAFF_Max @STAFF_John @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_J

#28

iTOS tried to take stuff away from players to keep the bots away why do people want more stuff to be removed from players just to have bots being the only one who wont care from this as they learn and adapted.

Trading, Shouts Until 40, When does it stop at what point do you quit punishing players and just focus on punishing the bots.

If we are going to punish players to stop bots then fine let’s do it but let’s do it right the fastest way to do it and the full proof way would be make all items account bound then bots or anyone else can’t trade remove the market and what you find is what you get.

#29

Its called allocation not complete removal. EG. dramatically increase the amount of exp cards you can get below 90. Basically bots will have to be sophisticated enough to clear all the quest of TOS before then can progress on their levels. Bots cant do that, proof is on their adventure journals.

#30

If you think they can’t adapt to quest you’re mistaken. It wouldn’t be right away but it’s wouldn’t be hard for them to write coding for them to see the quest at right side or even quest menu and take key information from that quest which says kill blank monster or use blank item on blank place. The quest from this game isn’t hard and complicated.

#31

Show me proof a bot that have the same level of adventure journals like that of legit players, if they can make a bot that can quest then why we never see one? There is no way botters can clear all of the quests in TOS, thats the reason. It is impossible for them.

#32

Just because you don’t see something doesn’t mean it can’t happen. They don’t need to do quest right now so they don’t try. Yes complex things such as dodging can’t be done however the game early stages wont even require that and even when they get hit they can heal by potions or skills.

You’re about proof but you have no proof they can’t as well. You can’t show proof because while adventure journals don’t mean much else they could simply ban players who reached a level which only has a certain number of adventure points without the need of changing quest.

Anyways It’s seems you’re not going to listen to logic so I’m not going to try to make you understand. Enjoy your day.

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#34

Adventure journal is my proof however you show nothing to counter that. Basically youre hoping botters can quests where in fact they cant, it’s much faster to level bots if they can quests, they dont have to take the trouble of leveling in the field if they can do that.

If you dont know lvl 80 bots have 2k+ adventure journal, a lvl 180 have 4k-6k. Legits players already have 10k+ at lvl 80 and 20k+ at lvl 180 respectively.

Botters are also a businessman, they have to maximize their profit as much as possible, making your bot that can quests will minimize the possibilities of getting them banned which would translate to more incoming on their part. However they cant do that so in the end thousands of botting accounts had been ban.

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#36

Hell, when you mentioned “Kill Bot” I immediately thought there was a way to LITERALLY KILL them.

my 2 cents worth of suggestion:
Timer & captcha to decline PVP request? lol

#37

Captcha every 1 second should do it.

#38

this is false logic. “they have not done it” is not proof that “they cannot do it”.

just look at all the things that -were- done in the past that had not been done before.

hell, 25 years ago, the MMO itself was “impossible! you’ll never get tens of people online in the same game, let alone hundreds or thousands. you just can’t transfer data fast enough!”

the code would be very easy to write. the biggest problems would be having to manually do the quests a couple of times to give the bot the data. functionally, it’s no different than writing the code to go into town and sell things.

go to "location"
interact with npc "quest giver"
start “quest_name”
-start “quest_name first_objective”
–go to “quest_name location”
–target “quest_name objective”
==if target = mob then hunt “quest_name target_number”
==if target = npc then interact with “quest_name target_npc”
–if “quest_name” has “second_objective” then start “quest_name second_objective”
–else go to “location”
–interact with npc “quest giver”
–complete “quest_name”
-do next quest

for purposes of the game/coding, -anything- you interact with, like “stone pillar” or “magic circle” or “that guy over there” are all considered as “NPC’s”.
if all you need to do is poke it, it’s just a simple “talk to X”. if you need to do more than that, you can simply identify which options to choose when a menu arrives.

both of these statements are completely untrue.
if anything we would be hoping that bots -couldn’t- do quests… but it’s completely basic to write the scripts to be able to do them.

it isn’t always faster to level via questing. it isn’t even “much faster” when it -is- faster. sure you level up quickly when you spam a ton of xp cards, but first you have to do all the plodding around to -get- all those cards. when you’re grinding, you don’t have to keep running back and forth to get/turn in quests, you don’t have to explore to -find- the quests, you just stay there and kill mobs. when you find an area with lots of mobs of the right level, you’ll advance as fast as questing.
…otherwise, why would dina bee farm, and demon prison be such popular locations to grind?

#40

That will no work, because :

1# no all quest is static

2# Certain mechanism of boss too hard for bot kill it and do next quest

3# Is no have locate in the game, you need open your eyes or open the maps for find a pnj.

4# it have radar quest, how you will have very hard time programme that !

5# you need leaning all thing perfect in the game, quest, ncp, random quest, random item to use etc.

6# is useless because all thing will need alot and alot time and expert programming for try, no make i tell try make a bot that do quest in TOS.

7# your programming you show us will no work at all lol, you can’t do 1 simple quest with that.

8# when you see a bot in TOS all time it go in the wall ! and you tell us a bot will follow quest ? then they can’t follow a simple run ?

#41

Hi IMC,
Want kill bot ? very simple !

  • Remove silver from the game. (This stops gold selling)
  • Remove all trading including the market from the game. Make all items gained from quests or dungeon / field runs / adventure journal. Put items right into your inventory when received. This also includes trading between characters. (This stops RMT from selling loot drops).
  • IP lock accounts on first login so it cannot be logged in from any other IP, ever, and only allow this to be changed upon verification of your identity to the company. (This stops PLing services).
  • Any account banned for botting that has been proven guilty is subject to IP banning and implement proxy detection to further make sure they stay gone.

And watch as all the bots and RMTers nope out of Tree of Savior forever… and so do all the players too.

Point is, fighting bots and RMT by implementing MORE restrictions starts to ruin the whole “I play video games to have fun” thing for the legitimate players. Let’s be careful here.

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