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Shining silver ichoir... lets the fraud beggins

the item its not the poit do you know what I mean about “sierra powder item” just asum that you where wrong
its dont care about the probabilities or even if you can get it from some game event (like the diamond anvils too) only a few players can get 5500 GF tokens at day and also I only can play 3/7 days because im bussy at that ours. just remember that i said that the develops make the sierra powder mechanics (ichor and re-identifications) with a shitty rng to push players to buy these kinds of items. again this is the fraud. just keep being wrong if you want

i mean that the 900k that you save from normal ichors straction kits are like 60 sierra powder at 15k each (when I se the price) thats almost 400. maybe like 3000 sierra powder per piece of equipment

if anyone buy thats amount of sierra from the market the price will skyrocket instantly

but if an ichor stractions needs 1/20 tries thats a loot of money to be farmed. for 1 piece of velcoff

Gemstone feud isn’t an event, it’s content you’re too lazy to do that takes 15 minutes of your time.

Grats, that’s like 2-3 ichor kits a week.

Shitty RNG doesn’t push players to do anything but play the game. If you don’t want to play the game then don’t, you mouth-breathing child, but don’t cry when you are being told that you can get the item by playing the game.

Nothing is pushing you to buy Leticia’s Cubes and you do not need to buy them if you don’t want to. You have no idea what you’re talking about:

An ichor kit is exactly the same as 116 sierra powder–and that’s at max, assuming you are only trying to ichor Balzer set pieces or Masi/primus weapons. It has the same success or fail rate. It still consumes the kit if you fail. It’s worth like 3.4m on Klaipeda right now and idiots are trying to sell the kits for 10m to stupid people just like you who don’t know how it works. Just like they’re trying to sell the Velco rerolls for like 10-30m when the Velco reroll is a set amount at a little over 8m. You are spending more silver if you try to get the Leticia Cube items than you would if you literally just did it without them.

What is wrong with you?

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whats wrong with you if I already have farm over 30 silver straction sets on GF I know what i toking about obviously some players will hanged over the hipe of the item like every time they do but obviously the players who knows how much time could save througth using this ites will stack them and save sierra powder to reroll items or put the ichor on the velcoff equipments.
whatever you lose asume that and beggins to be more humble doing that maybe you can notice that you miss a box of legend cubes rerolls but on SA they play more smart than on klaipeda.

and the sierra market explode

eveyone knows that the RTM players set the prices of the items on the market. now over 20k for a newy players its obviously an abuse

Just because something obtainable in game does not make it not pay to win.
Taking your advice and looking up the meaning of p2w to understand I found this

"In some multiplayer free-to-play games, players who are willing to pay for special items or downloadable content may be able to gain a significant advantage over those playing for free. Critics of such games call them “pay-to-win” (p2w) games

It’s not about buying unobtainable items, it’s about using money to gain an advantage.

Uh… I was doing my Saalus runs when I posted this. There were like 30 shops up between Klaipeda and Saalus. It’s not like I logged in the second the servers came up.

Sorry, I get triggered when someone else gets triggered over something stupid like this.

silver ichor kits are hardly a ‘significant advantage’ - content is easy, getting sierra powder is easy.

The only thing that grants a significant advantage are Diamond Anvils.

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well… again thats not the point. maybe for an old player with a thauma full equiped with over 1000 loot chance farm primus its easy but again this its unfair with new players diamonds anvils was a mechanic to reach OP weapons over +25 more “easly” but its depends a lot of rng and know how take advantage on upgrading weapons
also personally I used to buy letitias on the first 4 editions and i remember that i never get I DA but only ET resets…

whatever, for the amount of sierra powder that everyone needs to finish their sets the ichor straction its a rlly unfair adventage and the whales handle the prices of these items so again its more frustrating for new players try to make gear without waste money

There’s a reason why Sierra are priced like that, and it’s demand. New players want Sierra? Sorry, but they aren’t supposed to be at that point yet to even use Sierra for their Velcoffer/Re-identification unless they are very dedicated. And even then, they could just go farm them easily by uphill, CMs, 330 Raid and by just playing the game.

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Getting a few powder is easy getting the thousands required for a full velcoff set certainly is not.

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Sure it is, if you farm for it.


It just takes time and dedication, and it’s not hard.

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You have approximately 800 powder there.
That’s not even enough for a piece of gear if all your attempts fail.

And how long did it take to farm all that vs someone buying cubes?
Haha you people are so deluded.

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Doesn’t matter how long it takes if you enjoy playing the game. If you want to blow up your wallet for a casual game like TOS then whatever - but it isn’t needed to complete the content.

farm with multi counts full buffs and a pirate drop buff obviously its very easy

PD: thanks for the pics. i will report that

Never said it was needed.
My opinion is that the game is pay to win but optionally, since you can get by just fine without paying.
The ability to pay to win is there if someone should choose to, but people try and say it’s not.

Report it for what, playing the game?

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just kidding i dont even care about make a report I saw tons of players like you with a full party of multi counts with 3rds party programs. thats just not fair and if some day you get a half of your counts baneed you will know why…

…I don’t use 3rd party programs?

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are you literally insane?

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again it was a joke i dont care but your SS only proff that you have to bend the rulls to hang to the requeriments for the contents instead pay for skip that farm time

like @notme said there you have like 800 sp and thats like 5 shinings silver stractions items but you needs almost 4 time that amount to make and use 1 ichor

and a few alter counts for buffs, pls dont be hypocrite
like I said I dont care if you have 20 pc to runs 20 counts at time or if you use virtual machines or if a guild mate share their counts with you, thats not fair at all