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Seriously...Please ban China mainland IP address to kill those bots and gold sellers

I said smaller gold selling companies. They cannot compete with the bigger companies that are selling at a low margin. The bigger companies tends to work at a very low margin to weed out the smaller companies to begin with. With an additional cost for VPN, the smaller companies can barely survive so they won’t bother.

If you’ve played in any other MMOs, you should’ve seen a significant decrease in bots and gold spammers when IP region block is implemented. Having bad security is better than having no security.

An IP block means they will sell in-region because it’s easier, NOT because they can’t afford to sell out- of region…note the “decrease” of bots/sellers and not “the elimination” of bots/gold sellers. No one abandons money…

And just so you’re aware, there are next to no IP blocks in “Global” (aka, “not enough NA players, stuff it full of anyone who wants to play” servers) in any game I’ve played until there is a fallout because of hacking/cheating or social issues, even when the company contract states that they are not allowed to register and play in that region. You can still find non-NA/EU players on those servers in MS and other games.

**Smaller companies have smaller servers, smaller IP pools, to run their smaller farms on…**what you’re trying to assume in your argument is that a VPN inherently will cost more than what a company may make, which is not the truth.

Make note of the Blackhat example I previously stated: infected small-business servers can handle the game and any traffic the game and VPN tunnel passes. Instead of holding onto “hot-stock”, underground forums (many in China…) will sell access to those servers to other parties for CHEAP.

**Cheap as in $10 each…**a small farm of 30 bots costing $300 is able to make upwards of 2 million+ silver a day and resell that to get their investment money back.

After that, regardless of competition with larger farms, they’ll still see a reason to continue selling/farming.


On another note, a “large” farm and a “small” farm will still have the same advertisement foothold in-game: they will not seem any larger or smaller of an entity to a player walking by.

And even a smaller company could hire a cheap intermediary to run point on spamming and the creation of accounts for the express use of spamming…

You sir, are running a gold-selling sweatshop with workers in China. I assume you live in NA, but your workers are overseas.

Your argument is just too thought out and it seems like you are very afraid of a region ip block. I am going to go out on a limb and almost guarantee that when IMC releases servers for China, they will implement the IP block because they will want to make more money.

What’s the harm of having a region ip block when that specific region has their own server?

You’re being too defensive over a non-issue. You have family in China that wants to play on same server as you right? You stay up from 2 AM to 10 AM just to play with them right?

If he was running a bot farm why would he tip his hand to you

How is he tipping his hand? He’s just very adamant about not having a region ip block. If China is getting their own servers, why should they be allowed to play on NA servers?

You’re the one that accused him of running a Chinese sweatshop

Your so wrong dude, 90% of the gold seller companies do not farm the gold themselves… They are a front for the massive farms that do it they only get a cut of the money.

Infact most of the actual gold farming is done by people in taiwan, malaysia, phillapines and then they tell these fronts how much stock they have and the gold sites advertise it.

Here is something else for you, atleast 75% of the gold selling websites are all the same company just with 20 different websites. You should do some research on youtube, there is a few good interviews with actual gold farming company’s before you talk smack about stuff you know nothing about.

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LOL! You made my day. thx. hahahaha.

The bots and the spammers is getting out of hand lately.
IMC seriously needed to ban China IP to kill the small weeds first.