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[RIP LANCER] Ninja patch Dievdirbys

Done already, Miko clap allows you to have 5 permanent owls :smiley:
(at least they limited it and didn’t make it infinite)

Yeah posts like yours contribute nothing to the discussion too.

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to remind you that lancer is just in it’s first circle bud.

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The OP has a point though, that the hyperbole is pretty obnoxious and i guess are an import from the steam ToS forums which are far more pessimistic.

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Maybe the statue is easier to destroy now that can’t be moved? Or maybe it will also become immortal object later :grimacing:

I always play with both diev and priest. While I’m happy for diev that she will have more smooth gameplay, I feel kinda bad for priest that she will have less job to do and might feel obsolete. Since priest girl will act as cover when diev’s statue got blown away.

And priest girl happen to be my little sister. Time to face her wrath and jolly roger probably can’t save me with this one :sweat:

P.S. Is it the same in kToS? @greyhiem

Diev3 ausrine buff does not provide knock-back immunity anymore (iToS).

Statue gained knock-back immunity (iToS).

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The knock-back immunity extends to other objects too, like Inquisitor’s breaking wheel and pears. Personally I find it is a welcoming change though.

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https://tos.neet.tv/skills/11601

im almost certrain joust can destroy carve world tree
Only world tree though, you cannot destroy any other statue with joust for sure.
Edit: i was wrong, you cannot do that D: just tested
might add an attribute in the future though

I’m sorry that my post was pretty “offtopic”, but it has been a rising trend recently where people start losing their minds, proclaiming a class dead and even deleting their characters while spouting “RIP my class” just because something changed unexpectedly, yet in the end it almost always turned out to be not as bad as all those RIP-shouters proclaimed it to be.

Best example : Doppels Cyclone change on kTOS, where people spammed every topic with premature “RIP doppel” posts.
And before that were the sorcs because of anti-afk implementations calling their class dead and yelling “can’t afk anymore. RIP sorc class, sux now”, and elemememememes because of frost cloud nerf (“RIP Meme, Frost cloud now has max target limit, sux now, ill quit”), and before that some archers because of circling (“RIP Falconer, doesn’t reduce aoe def to 0 anymore. sux now, ill delete my char”), etc.

It’s getting silly how fast people proclaim a skill or class dead, yet in the end it almost always turned out to be ok.

Anyways, on topic :
As a diev player, i really love this change. Nothing made me angrier when playing that char than spending like 10+ seconds setting up statues, just to have them thrown around in random directions. So frustrating… If this change applies to other stationary things, like Breaking Wheel, its even better.
Maybe they’ll give Lancer an attribute or skill change where he can destroy stationary things very easily.

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Bosses can’t knockback your statues anymore too?

Nah ignore sayuri. He doesnt know that cleric is the pampered one and always get buffs. Ignorance is a bliss.

Yup be happy cleric gets buffed again especially the class you are playing.

Hypocrisy at its finest. kakaka

Im happy that my class got buffed but I hate people saying their class its dead RIP this class RIP that class. I dont care since my class got buffed

-SayuriChan

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hahahah

just let sayuri play against another sayuri coz with all the people quiting

there will only be sayuris remain…

huehuehue

sayuri could ackwledge the op of cleric class(idiot imc) but instead sayuri bash player

we need more sayuri in forum

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If this is true I dont think Lancer was nerfed if Ausrine buff doesnt have knock-back immunity anymore. I didnt play for 5 days so i cant confirm it myself but it sounds like a buff instead of nerf to swordsman.

what about stagger will they be immune to it ?

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I said it before and i say it again :
If a class has some unnecessarily frustrating and annoying aspects that then that aspect should get fixed to be more fun, regardless how op that class is in another aspect.

Even if you have a class where 9 out of 10 skills were totally op, if that last non-op skill is annoying and frustrating to use, then that skill should get changed. Whether the op skills should get nerfed or not is a completely different issue and has nothing to do with making that one skill less frustrating to use.

Clearly you completely missed my point:

I’m not against people being unhappy with nerfs or changes, i’m against the way most people voice their discomfort and expect changes. Instead of starting a healthy discussion “Diev Statues are no longer being knocked back. This has some serious consequences in pvp, especially for the Lancer class and their Crush skill. Was this an intended change? What is your opinion about this? Can we get a statement from IMC regarding this issue?” most people on this forum immediately jump to the most extreme conclusion “RIP my class. sux now. i hate u IMC! ill delete my char unless you change it back!”.

Btw I don’t main any cleric class, my diev is just a just-for-fun char, my main is a swordsman type class.
And if i didn’t care about other classes gameplay changes by this i wouldn’t have suggested an attribute change for Lancers to give them a statue-killing ability.
Soooo… nice try.

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here is where we differ

me n kakor n other hues are not against any healthy discussion, but we hate people who hypocritically bashing player while saying morally things how people can be more consturctive yada yada (aka social justice warrior/whiteknighting imc)

why do u care how other players voice their frustration anyway? Not like 99 immature post gonna decrease player population anyway. (see cs/dota/lol, 99% cancer but still few hundread k player base)

its good to have great people like gwen/grey/tampoon etc, but even them dont bash other players, what grant u sayuri the rights to appear morally above those whinning player?

tldr, imc is a ■■■■■■ n their idea never cease to amaze me (in a bad way). More so when their intern community staff dont even know the hidden stuff that got ninja patched into the game.

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yes i was playing on my diev yesterday doing missions and the boss didnt knock owl :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: was pretty nice

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I hope IMC take this to the necromancer class in PvE, is very annoying when the summons ends with the bugged AI after being released at 100m

IMC’s fails have laid the groundwork to hinder any sort of healthy discussions…

Blame IMC, not angry players.

huehue

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