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Reset stat needed for new class system

Imo the only time a reset should happen is if a class is drastically changed. If it is a cash shop item, it should not be super cheap and should have a lengthy cool down.

Why not limit the use of Stat Reset per character. Max of 2 uses per char. And make the price a little high. example is 2500iCoins for the 1st scroll, 3000iCoins for the 2nd scroll. 3000iCoins is the price of the 3rd pub with max of 10 char. so instead of buying scroll, they will think on buying the expansion pub to create a new char. or waste 2500/3000iCoins for a reset of a char.

And NO! NO to class reset!! :rage:
Some will find it hard to level a support class especially solo players. So they will pick Barb>Doppel or Elem or any good class to sustain to level on PvE and change class after. The path on class difficulty will be null and void if there is a class reset. I vote No!

Just stating my opinions. :mask:

Why you want 2 limit it so much?are you so untalented that you afraid of some one making a build that will dominate you?or is it so bad that people will have the ability 2 adjust begor the content they do? It will not efect pvp as you cant know what you get in pvp.the onlly thing limiting will do in this game,long lvling,is make people onlly 2 do the one full proof build and you will have one tank 3 dps and one healer/suport out of 480(80 x 6 at the moment) builds.lokks good 2 you now?

There is a smart way 2 do classes reset.the reset will rollback you job lvl and delet the points.so if you was on you 6 job you can go back 2 the 3 job and lose the point you got .your character lvl will go back 2 wat it was on your 3 job.so there is no abuse.

They could give an item to reset all character and class points, given after a class change. Temporary (3 days maybe?). So players can not stockpile this item

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500 levels worth of grind tend to disagree.

Pretty sure it’s only 300 iCoin, not 3000.

On topic.
My opinion:
Have resets cost a fortune in game (like in millions) as well as being cash shop available.
Alternatively makes one of the hidden class allow someone to reset their stat/skill point, with a loooong cooldown (like once a day)

As for what’s allowed:
Stat - Yes
Skill points - Yes
Class - No

But 500 levels worth of grind wasn’t there for nothing.

It’s 500 levels worth of content, you choose how you go about exploring that content, and you learn and progress your characters development throughout that content.

Class reset scrolls, especially cash shop based, is a content skip, and it lowers class diversity if everyone can just switch to the flavor of the month build in a second.

If you’re determined and are inquisitive then it shouldn’t matter.

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  • As he said, these levels are part of the content, and experience of the user. Choosing to ignore all this experience is not wise ^^
    Learning curve is important in a game, you can’t just say ā€œhey now i’m a lvl 500 Wugushi … I don’t know ā– ā– ā– ā–  about archer lol :Dā€

Good idea!
Really need something.

Meh no stat resets needed tbh. Planning a character cant take longer than 10 minutes if you know what you are doing(statwise).

Also having class resets is stupid… Want to try another class? Go make an alt lol

Obviously we are yet to see what the rates will be, but for a non-hardcore players reaching level 500 will take months, probably even more than a year. Without resets you are stuck with your initial build, which you will have to live through all the balance updates and content releases. And it is very unlikely, that all combinations will be ā€˜viable’ nor that viability of builds won’t change over time.

I assume you are exaggerating to highlight your point, but even I don’t advocate ability to change your base class.

Eventually - yes. But the information at the game release will be very limited and a lot of guesswork will be required. Plus, as I mentioned above, meta will shift and your great build can suddenly become useless due to a balancing patch.

tl;dr; - With how long it will likely take to build a char in ToS, rerolling will not be an option for big chunk of playerbase.

Eh idk if you have read my posts but I think when a build is nerfed to oblivion/is changed too much they should distribute free stat/skill resets to those classes,

I’m only against free resets just because(as this thread is trying to ask for).

The idea of extra stat point isn’t really well explained in game, and I can imagine some people wanting to shift their stats a bit once they get better gear or realize that some of their stats are dead weight (for example, hitting both evasion and crit chance cap, meaning any more Dex is worthless)

Except you don’t need lv 500 to get the classes.
If the curve remains the same, by lv 200 you’d already be 6th rank, if by then you still don’t like your class then you can reroll. If the classes you want to experience is the 7th+ rank then you’d have to tough it out to reach it before knowing if you like it or not anyway.
They’ve also shown insights to make even lower rank class viable (can use skills more time/lower cd compare to higher rank’s longer CD but more impactful per cast) and that the game relies more on player’s own skill (not standing in fire) rather than having certain class combination (the holy trinity) which means any class can work.

Stat/skill points are fine for resetting, but class imo shouldn’t be.

By buying it from a cash shop? yeah stat/skill resets are ok. You should not get any for free, unless there is a big nerf/change in the gameplay core of a class(big skill change)

People why you asking for so much limited content?
If there a reset and its not a ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  chore 2 use then there will be way more builds.
If there is no reset then there will be limited builds as some will just not work.there will be 80 jobs we can have 6 at the moment so it at last 240 builds from the jobs onlly.you have different stats making even more build.but if its cant be fixed the moment you did a mistake then no one will do it.it will be the most grind heavy game in the last 10years.if you get punished for a mistake by having a cherecter that underperforming then out of 240 + build we will see onlly 6-8.
Limited system is never good.

Somehow, you didn’t catch that.

Free resets will kill the diversity, not the other way around ^^

Someone already stated that people will most likely build a full pve/Grind chara and then just switch to the ā€œop/optimalā€ class.
But let’s say that this optimal max lvl class, is actually quite hard to level up. Maybe people will just go with something else that really suits their playstyle =)

Its nice that people dont read then go say things.first of all show me in what game restrictions like this worked? one of the big selling points of wild star was that you can respec any thing on the go.in reality it was expensive as hell and people didnt experiment but just did the one build that works.
Now i will say one more time how reset work and have no abuse.
If you reset stats then you just get the points,no problem.
For classes the reset will rollback your progression onlly,not the items.if you at your 6 job you can reset all the way 2 your 3 job .you lose the poits from 3 to 6. Your character lvl will rollback 2 what it was at your 3 job. How any one can abuse this?

Situation no.1

  • I’m base lvl 250 Doppel.
  • I take Swordsman1 > Highlander1 > Barb1 > Barb2 > Barb3 > Doppel1.
  • I’m using 150Str, 70Dex, 30Con for stats.

Then I use the Class Reset which reset me back from the beginning. Swordsman1 > Blank > Blank > Blank > Blank > Blank. While still having a base lvl 250 and having 150Str, 70Dex, 30Con for stats.

Situation no.2

  • I’m base lvl 250 Doppel.
  • I take Swordsman1 > Highlander1 > Barb1 > Barb2 > Barb3 > Doppel1.
  • I’m using 150Str, 70Dex, 30Con for stats.

Then I used Class Reset, it prompt at what Rank I should reset, I pick Rank 3. Now I’m Swordsman1 > Highlander1 > Blank > Blank > Blank > Blank. While still having a base lvl 250 and having 150Str, 70Dex, 30Con for stats.

Situation no.3

  • I’m base lvl 250 Doppel.
  • I take Swordsman1 > Highlander1 > Barb1 > Barb2 > Barb3 > Doppel1.
  • I’m using 150Str, 70Dex, 30Con for stats.

Then I used Class Reset, it prompt at what Rank I should reset, I picked Rank 4. Now I’m Swordsman1 > Highlander1 > Barb1> Blank > Blank > Blank. My base level rollbacked from base lvl 250 to base lvl 94 for example because I reached Rank4 at base lvl 94. And my stats will now become Str 44 Dex 50 and Con 0 because that is my stats when i reached lvl 94/Rank4.


I’m kind of confused on what you mean with class reset so I created some situations based on when to use class reset. So pick one of those 3 situations what you really mean. If not in there, please make something like the situation above to make us really understand what you mean.

Number 3 is what i want it all 2 be.
1 and 2 is abuseabel so i dont want it.
You care if i use you explanation in a new post?