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Potential consideration for aspiring priest-3 plague doctors (pandemic)

Class and Rank Cleric
#21

even pd is better than inquis

but why priest

sadhu is even better than priest

transmit prana -> better skill damage

sadhu have more attack skill than priest

#22

Because ress, blessing, mass heal. If u wanna be a worse doppel or mage sadhu is way better though i agree. Mass heal enables heal for massive dmg combined wiht good blessing.
downside of inq is that wheels are expensive.but its a nice build too imo.

#23

This build is intended for supporting in both helping in constant dps and… support. Sure it can do both but cant be best at both, kinda jack-of-all-trades. If you want to be full dps, bokor sadhu3 pd2 is best choice, or full support can be priest3 oracle kabba.

#24

Best pure support is chrono. Best dps doppel. Best ress+party dps is priest-pd2(or inq) builds. Sadhu isnt doppel so don´t even play it following your logic:slight_smile:
I thought about sadhu too, i believe that chap p3 is equal ( i lack the experience to tell u that party dps is the same as if u were sadhu doing more dps but its plausible) and more versatile and also blessing is op if ppl die or pardoner bless runs out.

#25

if doppel is main dps

priest pd isn’t good as priest-miko-taoist

#26

For me, chap/priest/PD is a very balanced character that can do all kinds of content very easily and comfortably. It has strong self-sustain, okay party support, high enough damage and a very satisfying play pattern (dots and dots and on-hits and dots!). It also offers a comfortable mix of strong single target DPS with auto attacks and large scale aoe melting.

I’ll be making the bokor/sadhu/doctor variant later for fun, but this is the build I go to when I just want to turn my brain off and farm in a satisfying manner without worrying about anything but priest catalysts.

#27

Incidentally, I feel exactly the same for my Cleric3>Chap>Inq, haha.

#28

Your opinion does not qualify as a PSA. But I guess you have too much of an ego to be told to stop misinforming others.

To the people who want a real PSA: don’t listen to the OP’s bs; Pandemic and Black Death Steam have great synergy.

#29

that doesn’t sound like any more of a PSA than before. Aren’t you one with an ego if you’re so brashly claiming your opinion is worthy of a PSA? pot calling the kettle black indeed.

I’ve already gone over my thoughts on the matter in detail, using my own experience AND facts as to why Pandemic, while nice to have, is not strictly necessary and feels iffy with this build, and there’s plenty of followup in the topic itself for people to read through and make up their own minds about. On the other hand you’re kind of just parroting. If you’ve nothing constructive to say, then don’t say anything at all.

Considering how scant reliable information is on this game even though it’s been out for years, people should be encouraging discussion. This topic was never about whether Black Death Steam and Pandemic have good synergy. It’s that pandemic isn’t necessary on a build that has no way to spread debuffs beyond Black Death steam, which does a fine job of spreading itself. I’ve been experimenting with the exanded range pandemic the past few days and I can still say that it’s not even that great. By the time I’ve stopped to cast Pandemic, all I’m doing is tagging enemies in front of me and allowed the mob to catch up to me some more. I’ll lose a few ticks of damage, maybe, but I’m just going to spray another BDS anyway as soon as the first wears off. Those few straggler enemies Pandemic would have tagged are also just going to be finished off with Aspergillum enhanced auto attacks or the downtime Exorcism combo.

It’s nice to have, and it’s not like you’re going to put points into Beak Mask, Bloodletting or Fumigate, but it’s not something to drop points into early like I initially did. Maybe in a world where BDS didn’t spread itself through packs in a matter of seconds.

Title edited to hopefully invoke a little less triggery for salty babies. You’re welcome.

#30

Tbh I think it really comes down to whether you prefer the novelty of smacking a wheel and watching your attack properties carry over to a large stationary AOE, vs sweet buttery damage over time goodness that spreads through rooms as you kite enemies. Inquisitor seems super fun but the main reason I think Plague doctor stands out for me as a farming character is a combination of healing factor making you almost literally invincible when you dive into big packs and the absurd aoe/low cooldown of BDS.

#31

Newbie here. Thank you very much for this thread. Im currently cleric>priest3>chaplain>cleric. Still can’t decide whether i should go for pd2. After reading all those comments and your personal experience, i think i will further my class for pd2. Just out of curiosity, should i max out pandemic or healing factor? And can you please share your skills build?

#32

my chap pd2 has:

healing factor 6
pandemic 6
incineration 10
bds 5
the rest have 1 point each except disenchant… i use my chap pd2 mostly for solo marathon farming sessions, so far so good…
if you want more points on your anti cc skills i suggest you take out some from incineration…

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#33

I ended up getting 5 points in pandemic and leaving it there. With the range extension it was quite big enough. You could max it out if you wanted to tag more mobs (lv5 gets you 13 mobs I think) but I chose to put points into Healing factor up to lv 6, so that I could have a 100%t uptime on healing factor.

I don’t plan on doing any pvp so I didn’t get disenchant. I didn’t see much need for beak mask and fumigate, since blood letting lv1 already provides a lot of protection from CC, but I guess it really wouldn’t hurt to have one point in fumigate just in case.

My skill build is pretty typical for a cleric 2 - priest 3 - chaplain. I chose to sacrifice support skills in favor of getting more points into damaging skills. For that reason I have maxed Aspersion, maxed Magnus exorcismus, Maxed exorcise, maxed sacrament. A lot of priests prefer not to max sacrament because it’s inefficient. I took Monstrance, but that was a mistake. I would probably have taken mass heal instead.

I also did get a point in Deploy Capella just to experiment with it, but I never use it. You need a few levels in this plus the duration extension property for it to be worth using imo.

something to note is that at around lv 315 or so I’ve started to run into mana issues if I try to use Pandemic on every pack, having only about 60 points invested into SPR. Pandemic takes a LOT of mana.

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#34

Your experience sounds exclusively limited to the 290 dungeon where mobs are stupidly packed together. Even there I find great use for Pandemic so idk what your problem is. Try killing ranged mobs who won’t follow you around blindly.

Good.

#35

Thanks a lot guys. kinda regret that my aspersion is lvl 1 only. And i can only incinerate my target through exorcism and cure since i didnt put any skill on monstrace nor debuff skill from the cleric class. So i have to wait till pd2.

#36

I have no issue with various ranged mobs. You can generally still get them to chase you and group together by moving away from the pack, and the aoe spread is large enough to tag them.

#37

I have a few questions about PD skills:

1.- Disenchant has any use in PVE? (outisde of the debuff count+1 thing?)
2.- Do i really need to max incinerate? (Level 6 feels enough with att)
3.- How much better its healing factor lv6 compared to a lv10?
4.- Lately i had seen that too many people dont bother taking bloodleting at max for 100% uptime, why?
5.- Fumigate 1 seems to be enough thanks to its “prevention” attribute, does it work?

#38

Not realy.

You don’t -need- to max incinerate, but it’s good to have considering Agny gives +50% damage to it.

You’d probably be immortal in pvm with only lv 6 Healing Factor anyways. It’s annoying having to recast it though. Duration is the biggest difference.

Bloodletting is very very circumstancial in pvm. I can count on my fingers the amount of times I used it while playing. If I had a free reset today I would probably get rid of the skill or keep only 1 point in it in favor of Incinerate / Healing Factor.

In PvP it’s still useful. If you’re building a PvP PD you should get both Bloodletting and Beak Mask lv 1.

Fumigate is pretty useless in pvm. If you’re a pure pvp build you can pick one point in it, though (no more than that).

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#39

Thanks :smiley: my PD is currently 100% PVM oriented so your answers helped me a lot! i had a lot of points to spare and couldnt decide wich skills to take.

#40

If you don’t have anything to spread, save the points for PD C3 and spend them on upping BDS/Incineration.

Easy&best solution.