Tree of Savior Forum

Please stop writing so much negative about the game and about its creators!

How about you go F yourself.

Fix problems FPS

Fix the problems of AI

Fix problems Respawn

And I’ll stop bad-mouthing the game and its developers.

fix the lag.

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You’re white knighting pretty hard here man. I understand you may think that some comments are a bit too harsh and negative (and truthfully, some of them really are!) but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t keep on coming.

Telling players to stop calling IMC’s mistakes and problems out is like sweeping under the rug. You’re lying to yourself thinking it’s clean but dirt’s still there.

We all like Tree of Savior, and the reason we are ‘so negative’ is because we want the issues to go away. Some issues dating back from MONTHS ago in which IMC hasn’t addressed yet (not even in the known issues thread, I might add).
There really should be a better channel of communication between IMC and the international community, because many of us are feeling unheard of, even despite the Staff claiming all suggestions are heard and forwarded to the devs, we’ve yet to see fruits of our efforts.

havent played a week. First thing i saw today is loading screen with NEW SPRING COSTUMES!!! Then i loaded and saw dozens of bots with arde daggers… For me it looks like they are trying to pull as much money as they can before crowd know enough about that crap and never pay for it. IMC sucks. By teh way, we should create a branch on this forum about bot prgramms, where download/how to use etc… because they ARE legal

MORE like :smiling_imp:

player : hey this bug not exist in CBT, why its exist now?
White knight : shut up accept the bug and play the game, coz now beta test and they fix it b4 bets ends.

player : 30 trade restriction is stupid
White knight : shut up, dont play game if u no money to buy another token, coz IMC need money 4 work. And it`s one of many ways to get it. So if u want a token - just pay u money or find some silver 4 buy it in game.

IMC : we made restriction to stop bot
player : hey the bot is still around
White knight : IMC know it and try to fix. It`s need time. More time.

player : since the restriction is failed, might as well just lift it
white knight : Give IMC a chance to make good game. They need time.

player : hey i waiting like 5 minutes for normal mobs to respawn
white knight : where u find this mobs? IMC already up update respawn time.

player : yeah, and player cant farm too
white knight : If players can`t farm, where they get max lvls and items?

Player : hey the game is lag
white knight : stop whining. IMC know it`s and when they can - they fix it.

player : i am the player, i played the game, i complaint because i think it should be better. or else how IMC would know?
white knight : If u make a report of bug - it`s good. If u made another post of spam about lags and optimization problems or about sell game to Blizzard - just delete it.

White Knight - Alexander.

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I’ll admit, there are two things I’ve learned about these forums.

Ever since one person started using the White Knight excuse, everyone bandwagon calling people it because they have literally nothing else in their arsenal aside ad hominem attacks.

The people smack talking the game are just as bad as the people defending it, more because both sides don’t know if they’re right, but presume they are knowing very little aside conjecture due to IMC being more quiet than that one stereotyped book-loving girl.

Do I like how IMC is so damn secretive of a publisher/developer to say what/why not they aren’t working on things? No, I desperately wish they’d take some lessons from Neople, another korean publisher/developer for DnF/DFO. But considering that other MMOs I’ve been waiting for are going to even worse publishers than they do and do even worse than Steam’s delays (RIP Soul Worker, RIP Bless), I think IMC will be fine just not at the level they’re putting out.

tl;dr They have like a C- in service right now, and it hasn’t moved much. They have excuses, but excuses won’t save them from their fans or even Nexon pulling them around with a noose. I believe like all good things, this will take time, but not every problem we want to get fixed, will get fixed.

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Ever since one person started using the White Knight excuse, everyone bandwagon calling people it because they have literally nothing else in their arsenal aside ad hominem attacks.
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They don’t have to have anything else in their arsenal…the WK side constantly ignores issues that are heavily documented or self-evident while playing the same damn game. It would be like talking to a brick wall to CONSTANTLY REPEAT the issues you’ve pointed out, or pointing to the other threads that also constantly point out those exact same issues…

They’ve already laid their proof and groundwork…the cucks have to explain why ignoring and not reporting bugs is somehow going to make the game better, or how making threads stuffed with false-positives in an attempt at tricking non-players to join in and bolster population numbers is a legitimate action versus being a scam…

If anyone is validated around here it’s these so-called “bandwagoners”.

BTW, you’re “talking smack” right now…hop off your high-horse, buddy.

IMC doesnt constantly update us on what theyre doing so people think theyre not doing anything but i think theyre trying to fix stuff considering these recent fixes but people arent making any posts about being grateful now theyre complaining about something else. Its a job guys be thankful for the stuff they manage to do but keep making feedback posts and suggestions just remember it takes time. Hopefully this game can become a decent one in the near future when things get balanced out.

Show gratitude when gratitude is due - dont cry moan and complain for every damn thing make suggestions to change things instead.

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Love u Alluring) :heart_eyes: agree with every word)

Now that you’re right, what will you do though? What has actually changed about the problems in the game aside point out to a guy, “Hey, you’re hostile as hell lumping people together in a group”?

Nothing. That’s the point. All these trolls just looking to pick a fight are doing about as much for the game for the people who believe it’s perfect in this state when it clearly isn’t. If you want the game to progress and you’ve sent your reports and suggestions for the game, that’s fine. But on both sides there’s just people itching to feel ‘right’ stroking their egos and it does nothing but create hostility and toxicity on these forums. It’s not a solvable problem, but it can be contained and decreased.

The auctionhouse restriction is also in place to prevent artificial inflation through equipment flippers. Without it players can just straight buy in equipment that sells low and sell it back at a higher price fast. Having some form of lock makes it harder and more risky to do that.

They can reduce the silver retrieval to a day instead though.

The economy is already screwed over, tho.

Because of the min/max price limits it was possible to reduce prices on high value items (high end recipes, materials) to the point where noone can list them on the market anymore.

The ones that can be listed are already being bought and resold, and have been since launch. The 2 day limit does not prevent this as it is not applied on buying items or listing items, only retrieving silver.

The entire market system is incredibly badly designed.