Other paths for Wiz3 build

[Luven]

ele 3 is your only option. or you could fo wiz 3, cryo psycho rune caster for icewall combo haha

[mindplayspiano]

Why is Wiz3-Ele3-Warlock so much better than Wiz3-Ele3-RC?
I dont want to play Warlock after my Ele3…

[lalakoboldslayer1]

Because Runecaster’s Rune of Ice doesn’t work with Hail or Frost Cloud.

It raises damage of non-deployable ice skills.

[tampon]

Well if you don’t want to, you don’t have to. You can even go Thauma (especially if you’re one of those people running full con)

[mindplayspiano]

I know but RC isn’t just Isa. Or am I wrong?
Rune of Destruction has good damage. I don’t know how good the other skills of rc are - I just want to know.
What makes Warlock so much better? I dont know much about these classes so far…

[DacreFullbuster]

wiz 3 kino 3 FF is a nice dps build

[zellista]

Warlock has Invocation.

They also have Pole of Agony + Dark Theurge (which helps block dmg from things like siphon archers).

[Charon]

What about Wiz3+Pyro3?

Pyro is often brushed off as a terrible damage dealer “late-game”, but I think that’s an overexaggeration.
Multi-hit moves are serious business in TOS, and Pyro has plenty of multi-hit skills (you’re not just increasing the damage with each skill level, but getting additional hits as well).
It doesn’t “suck” per-se, the “issue” is that Pyro cannot burst all its damage, it takes setup and time to deal the damage.

Boosting it with Quickcast would be interesting.

Other free rank could be used for an R7 class or anything else that’s useful at c1, with Linker coming to mind as the notable option.

The flaw in this that I can see is that Surespell or the cast-reduction of Quickcast aren’t of any use (or does Hell Breath get comfier with it?) unless the 7th rank is a classs that does.

I wonder how this fares when compared to Wiz3+Kino3 (well besides missing the quality CC of course), rather than jumping right to no-contest Elememe3 for comparisons…

[zellista]

IMO there are 2 main things that stops pyro from being good.

1. Fireballs being knocked away by melee party members. This could be solved by adding an attribute that will only allow the caster to knock the fireballs around.

2. Long cooldowns on Hellbreath and Fire Pillar. 65s cd on Hellbreath is way too long considering that it can be interrupted and does not have a high base damage attached to it either. Fire pillar, 90s? 3/4 the cooldown of warlock’s PoA but not quite in the same ballpark. Both skills combined doesn’t even come close to what Frost Cloud, or even Flesh Cannon can output.

[game8bravo]

what does invocation really do… i was puzzled in that video… all i see is multiple cast of quick cast…

[Arkova]

@game8bravo
Kill enemies with the buff active to summon stationary spirits. They inflict multi hit based upon skill level and persist for awhile. The last hit needs to come from you, and not by another other entity like templeshooter, for example.

He’s much higher level than those enemies so his magic missile destroys everything > spirits spawn > spirits destroy even more.

[DacreFullbuster]

invocation is sux (filler skill, usefull maybe for fun nothing else) , #cryelelocks

[hoangsea91]

there were but if you not choose ele 1

[game8bravo]

so its nice move for magic missle then… couz im gonna push that for wiz3thaum3war2 for one of my characters… if they do damage like that… I’m happy using it as a farmer too… thanks for the detailed info…

[Gatygun]

boost a lot of damage mate, really good skill

[DacreFullbuster]

is useless to my build (sorc2)

[Tri-Edge]

whats good about sorc2?

[DacreFullbuster]

@xiii.srl

Full Dark DPS Wizard Build: Wiz 3 > Linker > Sorc 2 > Warlock explained in details

Summon Familiar: 10 Bats, 35 seconds cooldown [+50% QC Att., +10% Warlock’s Dark property damage attribute, not sure if adds up to 160% or multiples to 165%] (Doesn’t sound like much? You can aim this by throwing magic missiles to linker enemies. You don’t really need to take hits or auto-attack something, any targeted spell makes bats target enemies, They also hit in order, so all 10 hits are shared, attribute multiplies any multipliers you already have.

Summon Servant: 5 buffs, 60 sec CD, 4 min duration, (Take around 12 sec to give all buffs, I need around 20 sec to fully recover SP at a bonfire, so that might be considered a combo, if I’d invest points into SP recovery from Sorc I could actually get my SP back up before the cat finishes buffing me I believe. 50 magic def, 50 SP recovery, 50 dark property attack, 5 AoE Attack Ratio, whatever stamina recovery. dark property attack benefits from Warlock and works at best when allied with multihit skills)

Summon Salamion: looks cool (I have one point in this, already enough to put 5 points into burn attribute, costs little SP, gives around 1k damage and +3k if burn applies, that is shared on links but is not really good, it’s just that as I already had a spare point I bought it’s better buff, I’ll get blind later for PvP)

Summoning: 2*(number of monsters hit)*(time alive) hits, “infinite” duration (This, to me, looks a lot like Quick cast at lower ranks, this is a tanky archer to walk by your side, tank things where you send him, gives very good damage that scales on INT, has a skill with something like 20+ AoE hits 40 sec cooldown [reduced to 20 if you have another TS card to use morph]. Actually takes 1% SP every 2 seconds, not too much for the damage it deals.)

Riding: Riding is an awesome skill many people don’t talk about. Temple Shooter has a very good damage skill with 40sec cooldown (20sec cooldown when you have 2 cards). Also riding other bosses that have magical attacks BENEFITS from quickcast, I’m still testing it but some bosses have magical deployment skills, might be nice.

About Summon’s AI (How to play with your summon):

Summon Range: Once your summon starts attacking, it will keep it’s position until there’s nothing more for him to attack or his target moves away from hit. You can do anything as long as you’re not too far from it. Jump, run and cast skills, anything is fine as long as you are close to your templeslave. The range is a little shorter than Sleep’s range I guess, you have to play it and test it out, but mostly, I just keep making circles and casting things while jumping around him to avoid hits.
Bad targetting: Sometimes they target things you don’t want them to. If it’s a trap or something like that you can solve it with Links. If you just keep running and get away from summon’s range he will once again start to follow you. I’ve seen mine run once or twice to nowhere like a crazy summon and don’t really know what happened but Hold and casting Summon again make up for it.
Teleporting with Summon Active: Summon keeps in the place where he is after your teleport. You just have to use Hold and he will cross the entire map to find you. Unsummoning and Summoning again solves that too, 60 sec cooldown is not too much for a skill with no duration.
High SP cost: I’m level 200 and I’m currently spending NOTHING on potions. I have “0” SPR, currently around 1800 SP, so Templeshooter takes me 18 SP every 2 seconds. Try to read elementalists and other classes SP costs and compare it’s duration and how many SP you spend per second. The only real difference is not having SP recovery, this can be solved with bonfires for cat’s buffing. I’m currently using the SP potions I got from Market for the quests I didn’t get before since level 140 or so. I have still have all the bad ones and around 150 of the “good” ones. 1 Level 10 Condensed Potion would fully recover my SP with 30 sec cooldown. It’s not expensive once you learn how to manage it.

Full Dark DPS Wizard Build: Wiz 3 > Linker > Sorc 2 > Warlock explained in details

I'm going Wiz 3 > Linker > Sorc 2 > Warlock. First video (Familiar and Theurge demonstration, MM used without HK and QC, random mobs from Warlock's master map, bought some atts. and made the video). Temple Shooter level 10 10-stars has 3051 attack currently and gets 2~4 atq per level and 4 atq points every 1 INT point (8 if you get 2 in the investment and so on. Tymerys Solo demonstration: vs. level 145 dungeon: PvP Video 10 kills 250k damage: Just so newbies don't get lost: Ri…

[Zellrath]

You can go Wiz3 - Ele 3 and then FF to become a flying catastrophe

[Crossfall]

Wiz3>Kino3 is very good in pvp and pve. Though, Elem3 has higher damage, Kino’s CCs are useful in parties. The difference is high damage to damage+CC (and hits flying).