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Monk after chaplain? How good?

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

Hi everyone, i can’t decide what i want - at all. Week ago i was sure to have PD after chaplain (like cleric>priest3>chaplain>cleric>pd), but now i’m not sure at all. Bcoz i want damage.
All i have - its stats|skill reset, and have str-orientired build. Now its about str 130, int 80, spr 55, con 40. Yes yes, i know its sucz. But again, i was trying to find myself in dat cruel TOS world XD
I like chaplain with str, it hits, it heal, it buffs.
But now i dont sure in PD in future.
So, the question - its ok to take monk 2 circles? And what i need to do with stats? Should i reset it after taking monk - change it to str-dex orientired? And if yes, what about spr and con? Thx.
p.s. Now i lvl 146

so, little bit of humor: i fell in love with cleric and especially - chaplain. And i don’t want anyone except that classes. So i don’t want to lvling new one, and want to have dmg based on that classes

#2

Hmmmm well tbh Monk doesn’t synergize -too- well with Chaplain. Your double punch WON’T proc the sacrament extra hit, last rites extra hit, and the asperglium extra hit. None of your skills do, autos only.

Chaplain usually ends up being an int class since cure double scales with int (base+int+magic attack) and aspersion is a magic attack therefore scales with int.

That being said a damage class to take with Chap would prolly be Druid, but if you truly want monk you would at least benefit from the property damage from last rites…but that’s kind of it, everything else is from priest. You’d basically be using the chaplain autos to fill in the gaps of your monk rotation, but strength won’t boost anything on the chaplain side except for the main hit of your weapon.

TLDR you can do it, but it won’t be as awesome as you think it will be. It’s a shame you can’t really try it before committing.

#3

go druid2 =) /202020

#4

and chaplain str-based not a good idea?
even i take druid, i need to reset stats based in int and hit with skills? I dont examine druid class at all, so i don’t know bout it (

i think, monk is better, that the first idea i have - PD with str )))
So, if i (/sob) will releveling class, what i need for monk better? Cleric>?
I’m solo player, so maybe i can go till cap with str build chaplain, and then look for it.

#5

Yeah it’s a tricky situation. I mean there are monks that do take PD!

They normally do something like Priest3>monk2>Pd or maybe Cleric2>Priest/Div2>Monk2>PD

The biggest problem here is that Chap doesn’t do too much for monk while it eats up a rank 5 circle. There are wrose choices, so you can roll with it and see where it takes you, but there are better choices.

#6

If i take cleric>priest>chapl>monk2>pd - is this extriemly bad choice? Or anyway, i can try and … screw up the character?

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#7

You can’t do that path right now and we don’t know when rank 8 comes out. If you’re willing to wait that long then feel free.

Honestly it’s only bad as you make it out to be. Personally I feel that there are worse choices, so I wouldn’t call it extreme, but you can make better class choices for effectiveness. However what matters is that do YOU care that much?

Ultimately it’s on you man! I wouldn’t play a chap-monk, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t if you want to try. You might like it, you might not. I understand the risk (otherwise you wouldn’t be here) but in the end you’re the one who decides if you roll with your current character or reroll.

#8

I’m so confused about that ) But i think, i’ll try one of that - monk or monk with pd

Anyway, thank you

#9

Heyyo Camomile, I would think Chaplain > Monk could work. STR/DEX is a good build But it would mean you’re Aspergillum won’t hit that hard. thats all. But hey, I’m SPR Build Chaplain, My Stone skin is good, and my aspergillum hits pretty okay, not as much as an INT Build but, yeah considerable amount. But my problem was unable to hit ANYONE who upped dex. So you know what. My Aspergillum is good for nothing

Dont need the proc, go Monk so you can silence enemy and hit the ■■■■ out of them. That one inch punch. 5 second silence with 20 seconds cooldown. Yes none of our skills don’t proc with your chaplain skills but… Dude who cares, its not like when I cure enemies, I am hoping my Sacrament + last rite would proc… It doesn’t Sacrament + Last rites is already useless spells anyway. You can get max Sacrament at Pardoner local spell shop, And last rites can Be maxed to what? 300 seconds? 6 minutes? Good enough i think STR/DEX characters aren’t supposed to Spam spells anyway, This would make you an outright Autoattacker Jumping up and down hitting aspergillum hoping Cleric Stun chance would occur. Then using your STR scaling spells from your MONK. Iron Skin + Safety zone + Stone Skin + Capella + Dex build makes you almost Dodge/Block all incoming hits.

EDIT: which makes you a chaser, first buff Stone skin Aspergillum Blessing Sacrament Monstrance. Last rites… … CHASE THE ENEMY X+Z is the best go over them hitting your hammer above their heads. With monstrance it should be an easy Hit. Now once Stone skin is over you get the chance to cast Capella. Iron Skin or Safety zone. I think Safety zone -> Energy Blast. One finger Death punch -> Iron skin. And Capella if all spells on Safety zone, Stone skin and Iron skin on CD.

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#10

thx, so as far i understand, being chapl/monk its like “wanna hit by autoattack? Here! Wanna use monk skills? Here you are!”
And i dont need con and spr?
max str and dex about 120+? Or 120 dex its OK?
And one more - monk need leather or plate attribute? I’m with cafrisun set

#11

Hello,
Playing as a Monk myself, I can’t advise you to take Monk after chaplain.
Firstly, Chaplain’s attack is focused on the auto-attack while Monk main dps is on his double punch skill.
Secondly, if you want damage, you have several other choices. Doing Monk after Chaplain won’t give you a lot more damage.

True, there’s some skills from the Monk tree skills that can be good for you but for a better synergy, you should choose another class in my opinion.

In any case, it is only my opinion, feel free to make your own choice.
It’s just that if you’re going Monk, I think that the Chaplain rank is a waste. i.e. You wasted one whole rank.

#12

Well Leather if your con > Dex.
Plate if Dex > Con. You basically want to balance yourself.

But then again. Its your choice. Leather gives evasion… & sth else…
Plate gives Maximum health, Stamina and sth else… i forgot. Whether to have full evasion but get killed in 1 hit, or plenty of health but getting hit if their accuracy > your evasion. Plenty of health seems good to me, + Your Double punch seems to gain power with STA.
EDIT: not gain power, but consume STA.

Cafrisun set is amazing, Especially with Arde Dagger. That earth property attack with Sacrament, Last rites and Blessing is quite strong. But I advise, If you aren’t going CON, Find Items that +CON. Ludas shield a few other items do up your CON…Or just flat health.

I mean, Since you’ve gone chaplain already what was your skill allocation when you were a priest? taking SPR means you are losing out on either your Dex or STR which scales your Monk spells.

But SPR means Mana point gain. Mana regen and Armor penetration. Increases your Stone skin(Priest 3), Dzone (Cleric1) Aspersion(flat spr+aspersion damage only bad scaling), Longer Energy Blast.

But you have skills from monk who can Penetrate armor, And Palm Strike who can inflict bleeding thats proportional to your Physical attack. So upping STR will increase Damage.

At Max lvl without Upping Con, You’re Health will be at 7k. (very low due to the meta which is to up CON. You’ll see mages at 20k Health at lvl 140…) Remember Anything is viable, but your build will affect your playstyle. Use all your spells to the full potential, allocate your stats wisely too. (If not, Balance it with Headgear, Weapon stats, Necklace and Bracelets)

If only there is a class reset. But there isn’t. So thanks for that positive note. OP likes to be told that his choices were absolute ttrash.

More like Wanna hit by my autoattack.??. Wait a minute, Buff, Buff, Buff, Buff, Buff… “YOU"RE DEAAAAD”… Stunned (cleric stun OP) EAT MY MONK SPELLS!!!

#13

He didn’t take Monk yet. I was just saying that he shouldn’t.
Besides I put “I think”. It doesn’t mean that it was, it was only my opinion.

Edit: And cafrisun sets doesn’t give any damage bonuses if you’re playing Monk since you’ll mostly be using double punch. But I agree that for Chaplain, it is really good.

Edit 2: Here’s a recent pretty good chaplain guide to help you just in case.

#14

In your case, 13 seconds of bleeding, Silence enemies, Penetrate armor. God finger flick to ranged attack enemies. Energy blast to lose gap and rebuff your autoattacks and Defenses.

As long as aspergillum hits, it procs Sacrament + Last rites + blessing and has a chance to stun enemies. Which then you can use you’re 0 cooldown Double punch, or Bleed enemies or even silence them, penetrating their armor is good too.

#15

Monks aren’t really known for autoattacking so you’re not going to get a whole lot of mileage out of Chaplain.

#16

While I agree these skills are pretty good. I do think that choosing other class after chaplain would be better. I mean, Chaplain skills and Monk skills don’t synergize well.
Granted, bleeding effect as well as One Inch punch effect are quite good in PvP (In PvE, the bleeding effect is meh), but God finger flick is…Bad. Really.
And only aspergillum will proc the bonus of chaplain. I mean, only ONE skill for one rank… Besides, if he’s going chaplain, with a good blunt weapon and stuff (like cafrisun), he would do more damage than spamming double punch.

TL;DR: Chaplain can do more damage than Double punch i.e. double punch useless. In the end, only one inch punch viable as well as energy blast which are found in the second rank of Monk…

Anyway, he will make his own choice. It is, like I said, only my opinion and point of view concerning this dilemma.

#17

thx all of you.
And one question - valia or toy hammer for monk better?

#18

If you decide to go for Monk, Toy hammer cost quite a lot of money so Valia would be better.
Or you can just take a random (good) sword for lvl 120 and take the Suncus Maul at lvl 170 which is one of the best Monk weapon for now.

#19

Now i’ve got valia, so maybe later i try to get maul