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Lvl 280 looking for something not meta @RESET

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#202

WTF?
u can be skilled in english as well u dumb
ah yeah u Philippines english means that as a skill “skill atribute level”
dude dont even try to correct someoneelse… u are too limited sir
when someone tells u “feels free to talk with more skilled people”
its supposed to means, go talk with more intelligent people…
but u are too limited to understand… u know skilful as skill in game

no, i simple know where to go and i dont lost my time. wheres the problem?
u dont know what to do in game? and u comes here say no for reset?
:cold_sweat: avoid me pls doge…

#203

I should be the one saying WTF here. :confused:

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#204

feels free to talk with more skilled people.

@lann3do1
You are not skilled. You leveled so fast because you have free time. Lots of free time. If you have so much free time, why not go to school?

funniest reply i’ve never had,

made my day, good day sir

y u english much!? :dizzy_face:

#205

Have you raised every skill till level 100? Have you farmed every possible BiS item? Have you raised your pet stats? Well, no, ofc. You have a lot to do, if you want to try other classes, up an alt.

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#206

Phew, I feel better after taking a break from this. I’m ready for action :wink:

This thread has come up to the point that the OP keeps speaking in circles that it makes me think that he’s doing that for the sake of getting attention.

I have mentioned it in some other threads and some people might’ve grown tired of me saying it over and over again, but here’s the build of my main character:

Yes, I picked the hardest class to level in the Archer branch, Hunter.
Yes, I have leveled all the way from level 45 to 175 using Archer and Hunter skills. Heck, it was hard.

However, by facing the challenge, I was able to see clearly what are my build’s strengths and weaknesses and play accordingly to them, things that someone that plays cookie-cutting builds wouldn’t care because hey, it’s just too easy!

My build is not optimal vs land bosses and the companion AI is unreliable, but I’m a plate/flying Monsters/Bosses slayer and completely toxic pvp-wise. :wink:

What I’m trying to say is that while there are builds that are considered ‘optimal’, there certainly are others that remains undiscovered because it’s simply easier just to follow the herd, why don’t you challenge yourself for a change? Another thing I want to say is that you shouldn’t set the 280 as your goal but instead enjoy what the ride to the finish line has to offer.

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#207

Me and Melon already came to this conclusion but i am at work and kept poking because i needed to entertain myself lol.

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#208

Still at work? Geez I’m home now…

#209

i did not found the “hardest class as u mentioned up there” can u tell me?
any of these classes are "hard to rise"
also high end everyone make grind the only actual way to lvlup

theres any challenged in here… sorry sir, knowing how to play i meant (using cards) u can ez lvlup in the game

doesn’t exist in the game, everyone can do whatever they want and lvlup
my build “seriously” ?
like look at me soo special :smile_cat:

these builds are called metas because people tried and it works as the best benefit for tank/dps/healer,
theres no undiscovered builds at this point, just others ways to play
and all these stuffs happens in all game :cold_sweat:

#210

He says 45-125 is hard as archer 2. You must be pretty bad at the game.

#211

i did not found the “hardest class as u mentioned up there” can u tell me?
any of these classes are "hard to rise"
also high end everyone make grind the only actual way to lvlup

There’s no way to counter your ignorance but by saying this: Play Hunter yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

theres any challenged in here… sorry sir, knowing how to play i meant (using cards) u can ez lvlup in the game

Hunter takes longer to level due to the fact that they cannot simply press a button single to wipe a wave of monsters or to place a ground targeted spell and wait for monsters with their weak AI walk to their demise, which it seems that what you did up to 280.

doesn’t exist in the game, everyone can do whatever they want and lvlup
my build “seriously” ?
like look at me soo special :smile_cat:

Really? Did you really come to the point that you are just ignoring the definition of the pronoun ‘my’? Seriously stop embarassing yourself.

these builds are called metas because people tried and it works as the best benefit for tank/dps/healer,
theres no undiscovered builds at this point, just others ways to play
and all these stuffs happens in all game :cold_sweat:

You don’t need to tell me the definitions of ‘meta’, thank you. As I said, you follow the meta if you want to, don’t expect every player to be as lazy as yourself. Actually, you should be actually thankful, because thanks to the people that theorycraft and test all the options available you don’t need to use your brain, which through this thread it shows that you barely use it.

@IceCold

Not to have any other skill to follow-up after Multi-Shot enters in cooldown…yes, it is. Multishot is great vs bosses but it’s not that good versus a wave of monsters pre-falconer.

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#212

It’s really a game design / balance issue.

Why are there meta builds? because the game is just not balanced and too imbalanced that some builds aren’t even viable so people try so hard to “not make mistakes” planning their builds.

I’m all for having diversity in the game but that’s based on different builds having their own unique place in group play. If some builds ended up “useless” and “unwanted” for any parties then it’s just shouting bad job at the game designer’s face.

(And yes, I’m more focused on group play since tos is not a single player game. If certain classes are designed to be solo-all-the-way, they need to be advertised clearly)

Class reset is just a sub-optimal solution to this problem. The real solution is to have IMC making the unpopular classes more unique and powerful, or make the content more diverse so different classes become more useful.

Edit: I’m pretty neutral to class resets since even tho it’s a sub-optimal solution it’s still A solution. But what I really want is to have IMC fix their game design issues. There are reasons why other games don’t opt to do a class system like TOS, I’m sure one reason is because it’s super difficult to balance this kind of system. But IMC chose it so they better concentrate and put more resources there on the balancing department.

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#213

I agree in most of this, however i fell in love of machine gun archer since it was one of the most viral videos out there before this came out, didnt get the chance to play the beta, started on founders with just one goal, QS3, A2, in fact i didnt even know why A2, i thought because of kneeling shoot then i realized it was because of swift step crit attribute :stuck_out_tongue:

I have fun with this types of build, being a D3 player myself, i enjoy the builds that are versatile and i love to kite around, feel untouchable, and being able to solo

#214

Oblique spam all day.
You really think < 150 is hard? Then tell me what you would call 165-200, after you make it, if ever.

#215

Hello.

Oh, my bad, for a moment I forgot that Rank 6 is obtained at lv170ish, so I leveled from 45 to 170ish as a Hunter.

I actually had no problems on leveling up to 200 after I became a Falconer, doing dailies provided me enough experience, the only moment I struggled was getting the last job level to become a Cannoneer.

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#216

here we go… im ignorant… because i tell people that the game isn’t that hard as they think ¯_(ツ)_/¯

i did lvled a full int wizard with no hp, can i have a cookie?

yes as everyone did, u can blame imc not me
im avoiding somehow not reroll and wast my time sir :grin:
i feels in a point i wanted to try others way, but not lost my progress
its really different :).

#217

You’d have made a character level up to lv80ish by now if you didnt spend your time babbling stuff here. :stuck_out_tongue:

If you rather argumenting with shallow statements in here instead, it is your choice of course, your time your rules.

#218

You found a gamestyle you enjoy, that’s fine.

#219

Booo envy. i still got another 30min, im almost there.

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#220

[quote=“lann3do1, post:164, topic:268195, full:true”]. So here’s what will happen, every wizard will just go to wiz3 ele3 warlock 1 then reset their class on the one they like. @_@
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Honestly, this is a very good reason to have circle reset.

I playing on Telsiai server and I see Wiz 3 + Ele 3 everywhere at end-game, Saalus, Evac, Storage, missions,… not only the class is already strong, but also the contents keep throwing bosses to you, giving Wỉz3-ele3 so many favors , if people can abuse Wiz 3- ele 3 to pick their favorite class at end-game, then I’m gladly to see it happen right now.

Just make a Circle reset that allow you to repick one of your ranks with 3-4 months purchase cooldown on TP shop. One circle could be enough to fix some mistakes.

#221

why are you arguing over the future level cap? when its not even being considered yet? look at the craploads of server issues their busy with.
look at how stupid your agurment is. you cry for resets cuz you messed up on your capped level toon you leveled up with over a month. now youre arguing how bout when the cap reaches 400.
well then. i guess IMC should put circle resets for 10k US$.
yes, IMC should take advantage of idiots like you…