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LV160+ grinding need more exp badly

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#1

There are people mentioning lv140-160+ you have to grind and stockpile the exp card to lvl through the EXP desert.

In the first place, this already shows a significant issue in the leveling system.
There is significantly lack of quest for the lv160-180 range.
LV160-180 really need more grinding place, so far only few place were viable (lv154 demon prison 2F is 1 of it, and yes, lv160+ have to grind here despite the exp penalty…

The exp gain is too little, I even tried grinding in lv190 map… still the exp is horrible.
Why is the exp of monster locked at 700-1000 base exp and 500-800 class exp for high level monsters…
This is CBT and the exp gain from grinding is preventing people from reaching rank 6 and hopefully test those rank 6 classes…
Please increase monster spawn and the exp they yield… ;_;
At this rate, unless a person stays at home (no school no job) just to grind and grind and grind, we’ll never reach rank 6…

And im pretty sure there are quite a few topic on this lv160+ leveling issue…
lv1-160 is fine, but it really drops off after 160…

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#2

that problem start at lvl 120-130. It’s pretty hard to find map with enough density of monster to make the grind effective. and there is some gap in quest where you’re too low level to take next quest and have to grind grind grind grind.

And thinking that the rates are x3 make me sad for the release. This EXP desert will be a hard time !

#3

the problem is not density of the monster but the exp they give
lvl20 monster give about 150 exp
lvl 40 monsters give about 300 exp
lvl 80 monsters give about 450 exp
lvl 160 give about 800

thats the main issue
exp on lvl doesnt scale well

so if your a class that cant overhit mobs for 200%+ you will suffer while leveling

#4

It’s not just a exp rate problem. The game punishes you for fighting higher level mobs. They reward you for killing easier mobs with overkill. The quest system is like they picked up a 2005 MMO and every fetch quest from it. Kill a mob in this marked place, pick up this item here, talk to x person. And quests itself reward almost 5x more than killing mobs. Also there are not enough channels for people to grind at higher levels. Every area is overpopulated. And them comes the exp curve resets that makes no sense at all because it makes even more people stay on the same level range for a longer time. This game is so cool and pretty but I don’t really think devs really put much think behind it because there are glaring flaws on the root of the system.

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#5

Best quest system is where you can decide whether you want to do quests and when you do you get some eq, titles or secrets or whatever not stupid exp cards.

Even ignoring the issue with quest-baseness the problem is how you have to go out of you way to kill mobs since there are too few of them and you would need few hours to level up even if there were more of them in one place. Maps are designed with only quests in mind and there aren’t even enough of these stupid card quests anyways.

#6

Suppord class can’t owerkill, what solution for it ?

#7

Lets not talk about overkill, even as you overkill, it only yields 1600exp at best (800 x 2)
and i doubt you can consistently overkill as crit and stun matters (barbarian)
so overkill is only a tiny bonus…
as @saurus102 mentioned, the exp doesnt scale well with level
lv40 needs 86k exp to lvl (monster give 300exp)
lv80 needs 389k exp to lvl (monster give 500exp)
lv160 needs 2.55mil exp to lvl (monster give 800exp)
lv165 needs 3.06mil exp to lvl (monster still give 800exp)

To make matters worse, monster around this level range are sparsely populated
Unless you go to demon prison 2F (which you will face exp penalty)

#8

IMC Please follow this topic !

This EXP is insane for level 160+

2h hard for 50% EXP or less…

#9

@STAFF_J
@STAFF_Shawn
@STAFF_Marikim
Please Listen to us!

#10

its not about density. there’s the hint.

#11

We always thank you for you guys ideas. Thanks.

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So, PlayOne.Asia is NOT Publisher for Asia/SEA? (edited)
#12

160+ grind is Secret demon prison 2 @ shanton reservoir entrance most people didn’t know , because to lazy explore map

#13

This was not confirmed.

@eldonhalim92, There will most likely be a lot more Sub-Quest’s during the final release.
-More Instance Dungeons
-Daily Quests
-and even EXP rates on the mobs will be increased.
We’ll find out more during KR’s OBT this December.