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#21

The timeframe was the issue, so was the communication. They explaining things made most people change their minds. If you wanna gamble $50 without any information, that’s on you, people most of the time wanna know what they are paying for.

The thing is, most people don’t care about the accesories, hats or anything else. They just wanna play as soon as possible, not to mention the fact that most of them will end up spending more than $50 in the cash shop due to the token overtime.
EDIT: And also, let’s be frank, you have the perfect example a few posts back, some of the founders never intended to support the game, they just wanted a headstart, that’s pretty much it.

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#22

well i’m always helpin games in general so whatever the time and the price i rly don’t care, every single beta player like me could create a post saying a lot of things but for myself $10, $50, $100 with 1 week, 1 month, 3 months or a year whatever if the game during CBT show a rly great results they can choose whatever they want with the comunity if possible being just and clear for everybody

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#23

TBH, I’ve never cared for the old or the new founders pack - early access always have rubbed me the wrong way.
If I want to support IMC, I will do so by purchasing whatever accessories or TP offered, and that is only once I have played the game for a certain amount of time.

#24

3 months was too long, even for some of those able to pay.
2 months worth of token adds another $$$ value to the pack for the same amount of money, that’s far from nothing.

[quote=“Panplemousse, post:19, topic:149835”]
First stress test for IMC before OBT, it will help them to launch the most stable OBT possible, and for a F2P this is a really important step.
Also help them raise some funds and advertise a bigger playerbase[/quote]

#25

Yeah man, that’s perfectly fine, if you wanna support a game YOU SHOULD, I backed a lot of kickstarter projects because they deserved it and kept constant updates about their products. The communication between Company/Community has to be immaculate. I understand people supporting the game without knowin anything because they have the spare change or they just feel like helping. But the best way to make a game grow is questioning their decisions, not giving out like sheeps because you are hyped to play.

That’s just, you know, my opinion.

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#26

3 month gap is too much they realise this with negative feedbacks on facebook, reddit, youtube and other gamer platforms and most of them is actualy “freemium ragers” (but lets be honest; surprise EA +3 month +50$ is to much)

  • They simple didnt erase 3 month option bcoz of self-respect (trying to no backpedal image) but lower bonus against 1 month bcoz they know now; 3 month is bad idea…

  • Why 1 week option is has worst bonus? : bcoz they need to profit from this EA… Game development and server issue things is not free for IMC… There is not “10sec casting abrakadabra spell” for magicialy create a good game… If its gonna be 1 week, anyone can wait for 1 week EVEN ME!!

Im realy satisfied with 1 month option… I will buy 10$ package but i wish i can buy 50$ one, even IMC not deserve it (3 month 50$ EA surprise) this unique game deserve this…

#27

i agree with you but you is you and they are they if they want to pay totally blinded it’s not our problem xD hahaha

#28

Genuine question, will you buy the $10 pack because you cannot afford the others or something else ?

#29

Pretty much :stuck_out_tongue: I like to know where I’m investing my money. It doesn’t matter if they early access is $100, I would have bought it anyway if it had something that interested me. But going blind and in such a different timeframe compared to other players makes my stomach sick.
I’m really happy most of the community is going along with the B pack, it’s what makes sense and is by a large margin the most healthy decision to keep the community, and the servers healthy.

#30

sure, well when it’s starts i pretend help everybody so i’ll wait for every one there :smiley:

#31

look at 50$ package’s benefits and 10$ one… Do you think im not want this delicious bonuses? specialy “stats reset” which is u cant earn even with TP shop…

#32

its not fair at all , people who want to start playing at 22/3 arent harmming anyone, but those who complains for the 3 months are taking us 8 weeks of playing.

I dont get why IMC are making others daside for me.

#33

The funniest thing is that people were mad about the EA. Now they still got the EA. But they are happy about it. Go figure lol.

If people were really adamant about EA they should pick for option 1 (make it as short as possible) but that’s not the case.

The only other explanation is that people are really so worried about “being late to the race” when there is none. Which is still funny. :laughing:

#34

:blush: I completely understand :blush:

It means you considered all packs worth it, so IMC get the value right, which is a really good thing.

@CookyKim Personally, I wasn’t adamant about EA, but was about one 3 months long and with packs I considered not worth it, and didn’t really appreciate the “surprise”. Now IMC suggests more coherent founder pack, so obviously I am more happy than yesterday …

#35

I dunno if it is basic psy’ but i would say its basic cynicism haha :slight_smile: !
Anyway no offense mate, i completely agree with your point

#36

The funniest thing is how your lack of understanding of what ‘the people’ wanted.

I followed a ton of threads and the ‘the people’ wanted multiple different things and had different notions on how they expected the situation to be solved.

So unless you are referring to only a couple individuals(a group) than I sure didn’t see when all ‘the people’ requested the same resolution from IMC.

Only when IMC provided a poll is when you seen the majority(NOT all) to agree on a resolution.

To say all those people who voted did so without compromising what they wanted would be foolhardly.

So your conclusions of why people picked what they did was preposterous and makes me question the motive of your post. Which is NOT funny.

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#37

I got absolutely nothing I wanted out of that EA for example, TP? sure, I was gonna buy it anyway. 600? not really, I don’t want/need that much, I just wanted to play. People were adamant at how IMC was handling things, 0 information, 0 responses, no “FAQ”, most WANTED to know what was gonna happen on the 22nd instead of just blindly putting their money to them.
Like I said, people wanted to play and support the game, but gambing is a completely different story.
And is not about the race, is about the hype that was build, people just wanna play bud, how can’t you not realize that? now mostly everyone will be able to play without harming the company.

#38

That is the best. :thumbsup:

@hiryu_rhys

Perhaps I am wrong but I thought the majority of the communty was expecting a free unrestricted OBT after the OBT Soon announcement was made.

Yea I did see different people offering different “more reasonable solutions” but are you denying that ideally we were expecting a F2P OBT on March 22 (i.e soon)?

If people wanted F2P OBT March 22, don’t you agree that option 1 would be the closest to that?

In this specific case I will be up front about my motive. I do not quite understand the logic behind the general populace, which is why their actions amuse me.

Now I’m not trying to say what you should be voting. It doesn’t matter to me. All I’m trying to point out is people’s actions do not always coincide with their goals / ideals / expectations.

@ehrgein

With the same EA pay wall (shorter) instead of the F2P OBT that we expected.

#39

That’s the thing, people wanted F2P OBT, now imc is telling us that they pretty much need to push an early access. The thing is, what we wanted back then is not possible anymore unless we wait, therefore, the second best option is to pay a minimum amount of money for the early access. What you don’t seem to understand is, not everyone wants to pay that minimum amount of money to get in, they want all the goodies that come with early access, TP, pets, hats, etc. People are just not choosing option A because 1 month seems more reasonable to stabilize a server than a week. That’s pretty much it, hell, even after the announcement people were saying: 1 week for $50, 2 weeks for $30, 3 weeks for $10.

#40

Actualy funniest thing is both side is selfish (3 month vs 1 week fanatics)

3 month: no decent playerbase for EA (bad image for game)
1 week : no decent profit for IMC (economy issues will hurt)

1 month: decent playerbase (maybe 10x player then 3 month and + more $)

Who is dislike 1 month option is; who is cant see situation from IMC’s perspective…

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