I’m also against AFK pet farming but unfortunaly IMC doesn’t ban it yet.
doing this will simply result in your -actual- bot reports being completely ignored as, according to the system, “you probably can’t tell the difference between a player and an npc, so why should the system listen to what you think anyway.”
this “noise” is self-terminating. file these reports enough, your RII value falls through the floor, and eventually the system just discards your reports for being too unreliable.
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it is more accurate to say that “the players often find ways to use the tools that the designer never envisioned.”
the population of -all- servers combined is something like 20k.
and i’m sure that multiple reports from single players are simply ignored.
and equally, i’m quite sure that the reports never make it to “real” people unless the system determines that the reported player -does- appear to have botlike tendencies.
basically, what you’re proposing is to simply invalidate the bot report system.
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except that’s retarded.
a; it isn’t going to invalidate the bot report system at all, only -your- ability to use it
b; a new system will not necessarily be a better system.
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i’m against change for no reason.
improvement is great. fixing things that don’t work is great.
nothing is being improved or fixed here.
do it.
if u think it is that easy to lv a sorc then DO IT!
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LOL when you flag people without being sure and you run the index down you won’t be able to flag anyone anymore. I mean you can try but when you do it will count as like .00001% of a normal report.
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nah why should i .
afk sorcs arent the main prob.
u can easily ks them.
Pet AI isnt as smart as u think they are.
the only reason why the OP is reporting ,
is becos his salty,
high chance he wasnt able to join the pt and he wasnt able to kill mobs fast enough.
this is just another rant post,from the way i see it.
just nice player doing pet afk farming.
just becos ppl can afford potting nonstop, doesnt make them bots.
5 min is easily countered with a count down timer that rings and tells the player to alt + tab + press pot hotkey,continue watching movie /anime.
anyway i can somehow tell that u are a swordie user rather then a high sorc or a wiz user lol.
Well kind of but the problem is that if all of the reporting players are wrong then all of them get lowered ratings. Once enough people report the check is done and as far as I can tell if all players who reported were wrong they all lose rating.
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I feel the same with OP. As much as I’d like to report these sorcerers, what they are doing is perfectly legal within legal boundaries. But that doesn’t mean that I like it or feel that it’s fair. Nothing I can do about it though.
Anyway, the reason why I believe this is a current issue is because these sorcerers are monopalizing the spawn in there. It would be great if they just occupied one section and competed with each other but that isn’t the case. Instead, since there is so much competition for silver, the competition has spread out into the entire spawn area. This leaves nothing behind for other players that require kills for questing. In fact, last night I saw at least 8 sorcerers summoning temple shooters on EVERY channel (1-6) at around 12AM in the morning in Dina Bee Farm. You’d expect people to sleep and be able to farm your own thing but this is just ridiculous
Another point is that the Sorcerer summon is AI driven, meaning that those who aren’t sorcerers/necromancers/bokor (or any other class that depends on AI), must compete flesh against machine. Hard work and time and effort versus someone that presses a buttone ever 15-30mins or so will be percieved as unfair despite legal rules. It’s like those people in real life complaining that machines took their job etc. etc.
Anyway,
Is AFK summoning legal? Yes.
Is this viable for bot reporting? No.
Is this in a morally grey area? Yes.
Should there be rules and regulations behind this to help other players continue their quest/farm a bit? Probably.
My suggestion is that these farmers should work together and agree to only set-up in only one particular area. Leaving a spawn area for those that which to do quests. But what’re the chances of that. It’s like asking someone to stop thinking for themselves and start thinking of others. Haha! Who doesn’t love being selfish and not help others? sigh
Maybe if we all practiced a little self-control and a little less greed, we could all make this game a happier place.
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as far as i know. they mainly take up the spots with the most sprawn.
and truth be told, it’s controlled by a community,just like how the world bosses are being controlled.
it’s a sad truth, that is why i seldom go grinding in fields ,just daily mission and dungeon,that’s it.
but wat imc CAN do (and yes i am gonna spoil it for the farmers)
is to reduce the amount of silver u can gain from monsters that are overly high lvled.
the players there arent even grinding actually ,they are just farming for silver,
some sorc are so over lvled that they hardly die.
so players cant blame sorc for afk farming,but they gotta do something about the silver drop according to lvl.
Yeah I think peak players is roughly 25-30k in any given 24 hour period according to steam charts. This would be reduced quite a bit when looking at only a single server population though.
But really consider that if say 10k players were residing on klaipeda and 1000 players reported someone as a bot you would have 10% of the entire servers population flagging that target. That is kind of a lot really. Also consider if 10% of all players continued to do this and gained crap index ratings what the impact is. I mean 10% could still gain a crap rating by carelessly flagging other players but the impact of directly losing 10% of the populations “voting power” this way has a decent impact on the entire system as a whole.
This system isn’t perfect and I don’t really expect something like this to be flawless either. I like the idea of a system like this one I think it holds quite a bit of value in general regardless of how well it ends up working. The whole idea of machine learning combined with individual player ratings based on how well you do at reporting accurately is an amazing concept to put into practice in a game like this one. Even if this system ended up failing really bad there is a LOT to learn from using something like this.
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