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IMC are doing exactly the kind of egregious atrocities that TotalBiscuit warned us of

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#63

Enchant scrolls are trash. Every single potential stat becomes near useless and insignificant once as you actually get some levels behind you. The ONLY stat that remains useful endgame is the AOE ratio.

Literally everything else quickly becomes so small a bonus it’s barely even noticeable. I know this from actual experience. Don’t get too upset over the enchant scolls.

This game has it’s issues. But it is 100% not p2w. Premium bonuses are a little too strong but I could honestly cope just fine without any of them if they re-adjusted some of them, largely the 30% tax, the +1 instance allowance and player trading, potentially the +3 move speed.

The two major things that need fixing is the trading (self-trading silver, self-trading item penalties) and I guess player trading if that’s what people want. And bot spam. Bot spam is an easy fix put a level gate of 50 on 'phones and/or make yell chat instanced based on level (i.e. 1-10, 11-21, etc) so that the bots are only yelling to each other.

Your premium token is essentially a subscription model that you don’t have to opt in to, since it is optional there should obviously be an incentive to have it and I think it would be fine if they changed the things I stated above.

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#64

You can’t compare food to entertainment…
A more valid comparison would be lets say; a concert. A band is playing at a place for free, anyone can come. But they sell shirts, so if people like them they can support them.

I’m level 80 and have managed to scrape up 200k, so i guess when i’m about 150 i’ll have 500k, assuming the price hasn’t gone up.

#65

i have a question ,a bit off topic ,don’t we need a token in the first place to buy other tokens with in game currency aka silver ???

#66

If you’re food for gold sellers, why would you get in the games market anyway? My goal here is to show a lot of you that the things you “dont mind” may be huge and even bigger for some ppl than other features you may love. And by cutting out the basic, IMC is steping right on that gray line. They’re are selecting only a very specific type of player. And I’m not talking about the ones who pay.

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#67

No. You can buy from the market board just fine without premium.

#68

oh good thanks for the info.

#69

They use the Auction House.

Blocking Silver Trade is enough with active GMs doing things (Which; fun fact… is already done in 1:1 trading). Since if you have too many restrictions; might as well not have trading all together.

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#70

I guess you dont have (m)any friends, a girlfriend/wife or kids playing with you, do you?

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#71

All of the restrictions, stupid cash shop, bugs, poor optimization, broken game mechanics, bots, goldsellers, hackers, etc ToS will be dead in a month after official release.

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#72

Say to me one aspect of this game that resembles a little Ro, taking off the graphics. I am just curious because i cant see one lol.

#73

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#74

“IMC is doing a great job”
Holy ■■■■ I think you have down syndrome.

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#76

You just listed like all of the benefits of the token to be changed, yet you don’t think it’s P2W?

I don’t even think its p2w, because as it stands, the game is single player only.

#77

Are you an inbred or something?

#78

I don’t need to take an economics course from a University (I took basic in High School; which is enough to see how companies trick people into purchasing a bad product) to see that they are clearly gaining a benefit from milking whales with this system. However; it’s an awful system that will only get worse. I can guarantee that.

Let me just say this: I’m not against them making money off of microtransactions. I’m even okay with the Token based subscription system. I’m against them putting a feature behind a paywall that makes it even harder and less meaningful to play with friends.

And that’s where you are wrong. They changed quite a lot of things simply because of what people believe should be right.

Oh boo hoo~ Go cry me a river.

No. They aren’t. If they were; the population would be generally much happier than it is. Stop kidding yourself. I bet your tune would change if they made you pay 10TP to use a Statue or 15TP to enter a dungeon.

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#79

I’m a bit early with this quote but I think there may be some bias here.

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#80

IMC can block 1:1 trades saying that it is bad for the economy, however there are tons of ppl and the server itself crashing because of the shouts, but no, for IMC they must be fun, right? Cause they’re still there, the shouts, the bots using shouts and 3 or 4 ppl who try to talk between them.

Cant get more stupid than that.

#81

I cried a bit. :DDDD

#83

Throwing around cash and spending it on random things without a care of what you are using your cash on, doesnt make someone rich.

It means they are stupid. The consequences of that behaviour will simply be less if the person is also rich.

I have a token. I could buy half a dozen more. That doesnt mean the current tokens are worth the value of the price tag attached to them.
If you disagree then its not because you work for a living, but because you are stupid. (in this argumentation)

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