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I'm going Sadhu. Is it really so broken?

So because of my stats and choice of skills and classes, I not only has been told by various high lvl people that the best I could do was go Sadhu, but after seeing it fighting in some YouTube videos, I really liked.

I am a Cleric>Cleric>Krivis>Priest>probably soon Sadhu
my stats are 26 STR, 62 CON, 88 INT, 65 SPR, 6 DEX, lvl 122.
I am already using a Kaloo hammer, which is a weapon with special attributes for Sadhu too (that’s why I have 10 more STR)

Now, I have read lots of read about how Sadhu was broken (animations, skills, etc), I would like to get a honest opinion about this, and if this is really the best course of action for my char.

Thanks in advance.

A lot of people get sadhu not b’coz of OoB but b’coz of Possession.
Other skills of sadhu is meh… If I were you go Diev and later druid or stick to krivis again, people love krivis coz of daino especially in ET

Sadhu is sad huhu

I don’t know why you have SPR for a sadhu build but it’s still not too late to turn meta.

Cleric>Cleric>Krivis>Priest3>PD

Could you explain what do you mean by sad? are the skills worthless? I have seen some Sadhu in some dungeon runs and they make A LOT of damage with OoB and the explosion skill

Also, about people loving Krivis… why? they don’t have any special skill at lvl 2, and the cooldown of zaibas is extremely long

Make sure that those videos you’ve seen are after the nerf, most of them are from before the damage buff nerf.

OOB does less damage than autoattack with cafri and blessing+sacrament.

But if you have really high int and high attribute, the damage might be somewhat okay.

I was a sadhu player…

And i was fans of OoB…

  • OoB
    oob damage is so so…
    But the real problem is the aoe…
    The Aoe is so small and i missed a lot…
    And at party i cant see my own damage, so i dont know if i hit the enemy or miss it…
    And there’s a pause between attack… Thats annoying because when it pause, and the enemy is moving and i have to reposition myself to attack…
    And since i cant use mouse at aiming it kinda slow aiming OoB attack using keyboard
    Thats the problem
    The attribut kinda nice… But cost a lot of money…
    I make oob as my main skill and it means im a dps…i can be support and healer but its so hard because i rely on my oob range so it means i always stay at the back and let my spirit hit boss

  • Prakitri
    Its a nice skill to travel…
    But no to avoid enemy who will hit your body
    Because it is so hard to focus on your hit… So your focus will be on ur spirit and sometime i dont know if enemy has come near me

  • ABE
    the damage is nice
    But the bug so frustating…
    I have to cast another oob to make the bug end… But sometime even ive cast another oob its still bug.
    But at pvp this skill is nice…adding a knocback attribute

  • vashita sidhi
    It sounds nice
    But since i dont put spr and i saw at some videos the sp consumption is high so i skip it

I kinda dissapointed with sadhu so i leave it…

I was stubborn… Ive read a lot of forum saying sadhu is an uncomplete class, but still i make sadhu

And then i experienced all those problem, then i leave it…

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Thank you for sharing your experience. I will do the same, try the class, if it doesn’t work, well, I will have to wait for IMC to fix things I suppose…

Just take care with the date of these videos, many things changed from iCBT videos.

I will try to answer you since i am a Sadhu C2 and from my experience.

Indeed most of Sadhu skills (in C1) are bad designed or balanced, OOB for example have low damage, but you hit 3x each hit, so it is a mid damage skill, but it is really party dependent in certain situations.
I use OOB to lure a specific monster out of a badge, if possible, or to cross some barrier with Prakriti or get away from a mass of monsters surrounding me when i am about to lose my SZ.

Vashita Siddhi is best used with the attribute.

Sadhu C1 is not really worrh right now, C3 i am not sure, since i never gone there, and probably never will on my build.

I also got Krivis C1 as a filler, as others said, Daino is an utility that is really required, specially if you are the only cleric class in a dun/mission group.

Other thing is, it is a hard class to master if you have high latency (my case 300ms+).

Unfortunately, Cleric is more sided to support than to offensive class, the classes for offensive side are a mix of physical melee and magic users, not to count that you have only 3-5 skills that hit flying enemies.

I still suffer every now and then with some flying enemies, fortunately now at Druid C1 i have more ground skills to deal damage and my Zaibas and possession are always free to be used on some flying crap that may come my way.

I am almost at my R7 advancement, Druid C2 here i go, i wish IMC stop releasing stupid costumes and fix the skills lol. Its a shame most skills of Druid are bugged (Carnivore not working in grass, even tho it is visually activated, but work in combo with chortasmata, Shape Shifting work randomly and when work you can only use basic attacks from mobs and even so don’t cause damage).

Just started a Sadhu, going for a Cleric C3 -> Sadhu C3(currently Sadhu C1) -> ? build.

Yeha the out of body damage is pretty lackluster, you can do the same damage with Cafrisun + Sacrament + Arde. Maybe it gets better in end game when you actually have good MATK and high attributes but it seems like a lot of investment for a “decent” auto-attack damage(DPS-wise).

As for bugs, i haven’t had a lot of problems with OOB, very rarely your characters movement is going to bug out but you can fix that by using OOB again. Not a big deal for me.

OOB Explosion’s scaling is ■■■■, i wouldn’t recommend putting more than 1 point for this skill. 1k Damage difference between level 1 and 15 is absurd, the knockdown and AoE are nice to have.

I’d really appreciate if anyone could comment on whether it’s worth it to put 15 points into OOB or if its fine at level 5.

I don’t know if I’d mix priest with sadhu. Unless you’ve only got it for the res and to buff others.

I assume you want Sadhu because of the OOB and to really get the most out of it you really do need a fair bit of int. (though with the new card system maybe not so much.)
If you’re getting sadhu just for the possession… that’s 2 ranks for one skill and although it does pretty good damage almost any other class will give you more options. You can argue that there’s ABE and vashita but chances are you’ll hardly ever use them at how they are currently anyway. Updates may happen soon. (doubt it)

Again with krivis being in the line up and assuming you will be…maybe druid after you’ll really have no time to even use OOB with other spells doing more.

So, to me, you’re choosing sadhu for OOB that you will hardly use OR having 2 ranks for 1 skill and using OOB in you’re cooldown time.

Just realised the question was whether it was broken.
I’d say sadhu right now is fine apart from the bug you get from ABE. I only really have issues with OOB if im lagging and sometimes. Most of the complaints are the lack of damage from OOB because old videos show insane damage.[quote=“igor_lavor, post:9, topic:307231”]
I’d really appreciate if anyone could comment on whether it’s worth it to put 15 points into OOB or if its fine at level 5.
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One of those convenience things hey. I’ve got mine at 15 and the only issue i’ve ever noticed was that the mission bosses don’t appear on screen if im at max distance.
to answer your question i’ll say it’s fine. with fade maxed you can be as close as you want next to a mission boss. only issue i see is grinding. but oob is horrible for grinding anyway.

Priest and sadhu can be nice once the Blessing patch hits iToS. IMC already confirmed they plan to make blessing work (if not working already) with out of body.

If blessing adds for each hit to Out of Body, and the SPR stat adds to blessing damage, I will be really tempted to make a SPR sadhu just to try it out (or an INT one too but with blessing).

I would say Possession is the strongest DPS skill in the whole cleric tree. One cast can deal more (total) damage than Carnivory, and it has 2/3 the cooldown. The downside is the interrupt mechanic of it.

That being said, Sadhu 2 is worth it because it gets the best damage skill you can get from all clerics, but that’s also 2 class circles for only 1 skill.

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Sadhu is very buggy and the only worth while skill is Possesion(very long channel)I. I wouldn’t recommend it to any one because the class feels unfinished. Dievdirby looks to be the all around better dps-cleric. However if you insist, test it out your self and see what you think then reroll.

whem exactly have they said they plan on making blessing work with OoB? O.o. i never read that! (not saying you’re wrong )

should it work with OoB i wonder how exactly will that be…

will bless aply 1 time? like it is one auto after all…

will bless aply 2 times? tough this seems irrational, if you consider the fact that elemental dmg is added in double (arde adding 300~dmg ), it does make sense that if blessing works, it would be added in double.

will bless aply 3 times? i really doubt it, since it is a fake multi hit, not actual 3 lines of dmg…

anyway, i would like to see blessing with OoB… it makes 0 sense for it not to work…

Your build choices aren’t suited for Sadhu.

First BlaXun made this topic:

Then they answered it here (last line):

Guess I was mistaken, I thought they would be changing it but instead they confirmed they WON’T be changing it. Sorry. :cry:

yeah =\ … that sucks…

it is not a great dmg incease anyways… it is more for the bullshit factor… like… why? why make it not work?

Well if it worked I would be pretty hyped on making a Priest3 -> Sadhu 2 build to have both a good damage out of body and stone skin. If it worked on each hit then it would mean 1 SPR would increase almost 3 damage for OoB :grinning:

But I guess my dreams are now crushed and shattered. :sob:

Btw nice bulba-fett.

well yeah, i guess with the blessing changes, depending on the scalling of blessing and OoB the damage could actually be pretty decent. lvl 15 blessing (16 with dive might) should add like 90% of spr into dmg… pairing that with a kaloo hammer…

but since OoB scales with 150% of your m.atak… fully atributed INT OoB would outscale this build dmg wise due to int bonus scalling, even if bless aply 3 times… wich i honestly think it wouldn’t.

of course, by going heavy spr and priest 3 your role is more of support anyway, and OoB is a quite nice skill to add filler dps while keeping a safe distance, and while possession still hits harder than OoB, OoB by itself is a 1 rank wonder, so there is that…

it could open up some builds… it could actually be better go sadhu1 than chaplain.

i do hope they will change theyr minds about it.

  • Thanks xD, it is not mine of course, no talent for drawing stuff. tough at first i tought of it as Boba-Saur xD

Blessing does not work with OoB.

The Spirit is the same deal as a summon, it snapshots your stats.
Blessing is not a stat.

Its consistent, you don’t Transmit Prana to a Sorc summon for instance, you transmit Prana the Sorc.
You don’t throw blessing on sorc summons you throw blessing on the Sorc.
Consistency is a good reason for it not to work.
They already have Chaplain as a Priest exclusive class, and Pardoner inherently considers Priest skills for its system. Sadhu will live without blessing on the Spirit.