Funny story.
Been trying to get a catacomb pike for my Cata during the past 15 days. All talts, zero drops. 50 lvl 200 dungeon runs later, on the verge of giving up and resort to flat out buy it with silver, I got a Manamana recipe.
In the end I still didn’t get what I wanted.
I took this as a sign from the goddess and rerolled an archer.
PS. dat feel when someone else in your party got a Petamion recipe drop and you rerolled 3 times to get 3 talts.
I got my Petamion Recipe on my full support in a few runs… I don’t remember exactly how many, maybe like 6-9 runs.
Arde Dagger, my archer was amazing. He got 1 on his first day. A 2nd one on his second day. Then two days later he got a 3rd one.
(I like to open them at the end of the runs, it makes my everyday so thrilling)
But since those lucky days I haven’t gotten anything (except jewels, they’re overall fairly lucky with jewels), and obviously our true Lord and Savior: Talt.
It’s so totally random, it’s a real roller coaster of emotions. And the suspense is amazing.
I want more Petamion Recipes though… I want to be rich… !
(Time to make lots of alts to farm it more, I guess)
30 lv90 cubes = 1 Arde
4 Dullahan cubes = 1 Karacha
I get Sissel Bracelet recipe today from 190 dungeon after my 11th run.
The trick is do not stack your cube, but you must open that cube outside the dungeon after you finish all your run for that day. I get petamion & this sissel bracelet using that trick.
Example you have finish 2 run at that day, and you cannot run again because of maximum limit, then you have 4 cube (2 cerberus, 2 firelord).
Then in front of 190 dungeon, open it like this: Cerberus > Firelord > Cerberus > Firelord. Using that trick nearly 60% of time I get other different item than talt, so like talt > talt > card > card.
That’s it just try
I keep thinking that…is petamion worth it to use? coz i only feel like it does…well if u sell it u get rich. by means of character usage…i think most archer class wants one due to their low hp pool? >_> all my swordsman class toons use strength pendant only, and my wiz toons use magic talisman.
is that how it works?? 
if it does… i’ll go try the nxt dungeon run.
gonna try dat.
i get petamion at 4th run, suncus maul at 5th run, sissel recipe at 11th run using that trick. I also experimented by stacking 40 cube of 175 dungeon but all of that get TALT and only 3 gold bar.
It is~
Because the base MDEF is good enough, and it increases all the stats. An archer will love the extra CON, DEX, STR and even SPR.
I originally got it on my support, but gave it to my archer because he’d have more use of it.
But it does break your heart a bit, thinking how rich you could be… But more survivability and more damages, so I really can’t let it go for now.
well i guess so… this one confuses me if i should sell my peta or not if i got one lol…playing with archer class seems so heavy xD
You should dream bigger. Just get lots of Petamion and sell them !
It all depends on what you need the money for. If you plan on using it for some OP 170+ weapon/gear, I guess it might be not too bad.
But you also have to take into account that you’ll need a Petamion to craft a Max Petamion (if you plan on using one).
I believe in my luck, so I want to mostly farm my 170 gear, that’s why I want to keep the Petamion. Also you can farm silver easily in Demon Prison and Dina Bee Farm, that’s why I’m holding onto my Petamion for now~
But… it’s probably worthless to think too much about it until you get one XD
It only takes me 1 run to get the item I want in every dungeon
that’s right
talt
I got my ledas shield in 3 runs.
30 lvl 90 dung 2 arde the rest TALT
70 lvl 175 dung 4 golds and the rest TALT 
unlucky
Tbh… i want to farm silver in demon prison/bee darm but those places are also grinding spots which makes a little bit difficult to farm…also i’m testing some classes which is good for farming. Thanks for the advice, tho
Hahahaha at least u can save a bunch of em and trade it for items xD
Meh…i wonder why those kind of items are untradeable? Maybe too much op for QS class?
Gz for getting one, tho
If only 115 dg can be rushed…i might farming that shield and valia for 2 weeks =3=
Better save those gold bars…they might be useful for ur future use ¤w¤
I got my petamion in my 5th run on my very first char '-'
it was huge luck ik xD
Also dropped manamana recipe on dungeon 200 after 30-40 attempts,
Something like that
but the arde dagger took more over 100 cubes with some re-rolls ç.ç
More than 1000 dungeons runs. Of those at least 400 in the 130 dungeon.
Nothing of worth yet. But soon Team Level 50. 
Careful, there are people in this boards who deny the very existence of luck. Based on their comments it seems to me they dont acknoledge events possible it they have less than 0.1% chance
So. total of 180 cubes of harpeia and mineloader = 2 petamions
Cerberus and Firelord 75 boxes each= Maga Bow + Maga Spear
75 necroventer = 2 arde dagger
got my Vubbe fighter blood from a shining vubbe fighter (so oracles, gogo)
That is for only ONE character of mine
(and now to piss you of superb, cause you will read this:
I found my teleport clip on 2 mobs
-1 dragon fly for clip and
-1 creamy of course, no mobs killed inbetween)