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I think sir the real prob with the D3 RM AH was that they never made a lot of money out of it. I have a well elaborated theory involving credit card fraud, but thats merely my own thoughts and speculations

how would that work?
“we’re gonna sue you for… having a different operating policy than we do, because you’re not even the same company, and choose to do things differently in a way which is not against the laws of the country you’re in and… ok, your honor, have a nice day… i’ll go now…”

i mean if it was actually against the laws of the operating country that would be a police issue, not a civil issue between the companies.

Im not sure, the legality of RMT varies country to country. I dont think this idea would work in the first place because of that. Unless the RMT and Dev/Pub are in the same country and the RMT agrees not to RMT other games.

pretty sure that no country has bothered to make actual laws against it yet. legal/illegal in terms of RMT usually refers only to the policies of the companies operating the game, not actual criminal law.

as for countries, and other games… none of that matters really.
if an RMT company operates, you can be sure that whatever country they are based in, it is one that does not consider it against the laws.

Company A (a game company) permits RMT in its games.
Company B (a different game company) does not allow RMT in its games.
Company R (an RMT company) attempts to operate in both A and B.

B has no claim against A, because A has no responsibility for R’s choice to operate in B’s games. (unless it could be proven that A -did- encourage R to pursue activity in B’s games… but that’s a different matter.)

B could only pursue action against R, because R is the company violating their terms of use.

of course R has probably chosen a country to operate out of that gives B little or no legal footing to base a case in.

That makes sense, but Im not a lawyer.

I do have some lawyer friends, that are gamers too; maybe if I get a chance Ill ask them.

i’m not a lawyer either… but it’s just common sense, and common sense is the core of the law (once you boil down past all the loopholes and legalese and special-cases and etc.)

you can’t sue someone for something they didn’t do.

They wont be able to tell you. Right now for most countries there is no law against it as long as it is fair-play RMT. I remember one asian country having a law surrounding that topic, but I don’t have it at the tip of my tongue right now.

However IMC should be able to ask the goldseller company to cease activity. It shouldn’t be allowed to break TOS commercially.

If that would stand in court is a whole different thing though, but there is definitely not anything illegal IMC could push for immediately.

They could go against the spammers and bots for being disruptive but until they can specifically tie them all to you they won’t have enough to proof any kind of damage you might have caused.

lol, yea, that’ll work.
“oh really? it’s against your terms of use? wow i actually had no idea. so sorry to be such a bother, i’ll pack everything up right now.”

i mean wouldn’t it be great if it was that easy? but… yea right :stuck_out_tongue:

I think you should learn a thing or two about businesses. Asking to stop is something more like a prohibitory injunction, which is something that can be done.
Since we are talking about one company profiting off another.

You pretty much have to act in some way - ignoring it wouldn’t be good for you in the next legal step.

Basically you get that letter that will ask you to stop from business to business. You can sign the agreement to cease the activity, fight it legally or ignore it.

Ignoring it would be a problem down the road though. It isn’t a nice letter asking to stop it.

There is also precedence of this in a very similar area of business.

See as a consumer you can always fight the TOS and easily win by making it void. A company cannot void it, but this is probably already too much for you to handle.