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FULL Damage boost Shinobi?

FULL Damage Boost Shinobi Build

Need help if this will work in PvE especially in PvP.

Not much of a nuke with Squire and BarbC1, if you ask me…

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maximizing the stun effect using barb, squire is for full atk buff.

Squire is already gimping your damage heavily. Why did you even take it? FOr utility? Then better go full C3 and full support too, because C1 will not give you anything.

You want full damage Shinobi build? Sword3 - Pelta - Corsair2 - Shinobi.
Or Sword3 - High - Corsair2 - Shinobi.
Either of these.

If anything get the atk buff from another squire, no need to gimp your own overall damage to get that boost. @Autentist is also saying that with only 1 circle of barb, you’re not going to get much out of it. You should be replacing the squire ranks with barbarian to maximize DPS.
Also you should put at least 1 point into Kunai, as from my understanding that’s meant to be your main skill to synergize with clones.

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why no one ever consider spear shinoby? theyre cannon (there were ninjas that used spears, mostly naginatas and it would make some really nice combos with catafract.
its dangerous to go alone, take this:


look at the attributes they make a weirdly good sinergy

I don’t understand why most people prefers a rank that has lots of active skills instead of buff or skills that combo with other skills.

I chose Barb obviously because it can be a combo with Sword c3 that has lvl 10 restrain that gives 40% stun chance.

I chose squire so i can independently have my own atk boost buff for shinobi instead of looking for a squire party.

Updated the build.
Updated Shinobi rank

the buff from squire is int based, also you lack damage, the buffs are nice but even if youre buffed to the limit with basic attacks youll deal less damage then someone without buffs and a high damage skills, also you can do any secondary effectt like bled, stun, etc.

I still have active skills from Shinobi and Barb. This isnt just doing normal attacks. I still have active skills with low CD.

I guess the reason is that buffs don’t work with your clones but if your stats has been buffed already I think your clone will also get that stats. I just asked here that your buffs won’t be copied [Guide] Swordsman’s Battle Manual (All classes) - By Cathexis

trow kunai is a low sp, low cooldown and low damage skills, itll only become a main damage skill if you make a spi/str swordsman, it can be make, but its a really hard build to play. It ca deal lots of damage by spamming low cost low cooldown skills but is a glasscannon, it only works if you emorize attack paterns from mobs and skills and dodge them (manualy not the dodge chance).
You could also make a spi/dex build with fencer itll have high dodge and crit a lot, but will die quckly if you get caught by a spell.

i thought you wanted input from others but you deny every single input dafuq?

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a little offtopic but does anyone know whats the max amount of hits kunai can achieve without clones?

I am looking for inputs and help. But that doesnt mean anyone who posts their own build can be accepted. I am sure that everyone else has their own builds. Ofcourse you wouldnt agree with all of them, I just trying to find a reasonable build that is not a troll build as well. This is simply just brainstorming, I hope others wont get offended if I argue a bit. You need ofcourse to make everyone here understand why you are suggesting a particular build.

We’re providing you input and help along with reasoning behind it, and yet you keep trying to rationalize your own decisions.
Lemme just make this clear one last time, and I’m outta this thread:
Drop Squire. Pick up a DPS class or improve barbarian instead, it’ll help your damage in the long run. Just use another squire’s services for the weapon buff, money has far less value than your class ranks.

Thanks for the advice.

Don’t go for c3 swordsman. Most damage on concentrate comes from the attributes and while gung ho does get a decent boost through levels, it’s just not worth it to go c3 swordsman for it.

For both PvE and PvP, Pain Barrier will help you more than Restrain. In fact, Pain barrier is one of the must haves for Swordsman in PvP.

Ditch Squire altogether, not worth it. You either make a build that revolves around Squire, or you don’t take it at all.

Here, cooked up a PvP build for you, that will also do just fine in PvE.

Reasoning behind the build

c2 swordsman
Level 3 bash so you can pick up a knockdown attribute for PvP.
Pain barrier to have SOME cc immunity, otherwise you will be tossed around like a ball. (Also extremely useful against bosses in PvE)

c2 barbarian
Cleave standard for any barb, +50 crit on use
helm chopper and siesm will provide you with a stun each
Optional: If you don’t want to maintain too many buffs/debuffs, then you can drop war cry or frenzy and get 10/10 helm chopper.

I only included both frenzy and war cry for you, since it seemed to me you like buffs. If I went with this build, I would get 10/10 helm chopper and I would drop frenzy, since you don’t get the attribute for it from c3 barbarian that makes it sustainable even if you hit different targets

c2 corsair
iron hook + keel hauling for another form of cc for PvP
Optional: remove some points from J.roger and put them into iron hook if you feel like you need more duration on it.

Not much to say about Shinobi, that’s what I would take for a PvPvE character.