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For those wondering about the comparisons between iRO and iTOS

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#32

Sees “go back to RO.”, but is already there too.

And don’t give me that bullshit that this game was never hinted to be something similar to RO. “Project R1” and a lot of the marketing previous to the games release will tell you otherwise. There was lots of hinting - youtube game reviews, gamer websites, etc. Using the title R1 alone was a good move since this is Hakkyu’s baby.

ToS is its own game, but is good for a little Ragnarok nostalgia. Nothing else really. It has a couple of nuances, such as the art style, music, and odds & ends like red/blue orbs. Am I let down? Maybe a little, but it has more to do with the game needing to fix and implement its own system and content rather than it not being RO. That’s why I still play RO. And if you dislike Renewal, play a pre-renewal pserver, though I really like renewal personally.

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#33

As if RO isn’t being killed after renewal too.

Guess they’re similar after all! Not that I’m hating on Renewal or anything but even tweaking the older systems to not make them obsolete (enchantments and older cards) is a bad sign as it is.

#34

It seems you are talking about Renewal, which is pretty much an isometric 2.5D/3D WoW version of Ragnarok Online for people who just wanted to go with the flow and pretty much play something “standard” rather than something “outdated” and “difficult.”

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#35

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#36

You keep saying it’s dead but you’re still here in the forums for it so it must not be all that dead.

#37

@Marsh

I believe you’re letting nostalgia cloud your judgement. The version of RO you’re describing didn’t happen until much much later. I was there for OBT and it was an extremely laggy, buggy mess with severely limited content, classes, skills, gear, you name it. Fast forward 2 years then it started to resemble what you described.

ToS has been out for mere months and you can classify most of those months as OBT but it still provided a far better experience than RO did at the start. You were comparing apples to oranges. Whether ToS currently provides a better experience than a fully up to date RO is purely objective. I also spent a lot of time in classic RO and tons in Renewal and I had a blast but let’s not kid ourselves and say that RO was the epitome of MMO game design. ToS is far from perfect too but it’s still early days so plenty of time for them to flesh it out.

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#38

i like this comment because it proves time exists in a vacuum where history is irrelevant.

#39

Hmm… Is iRO alive still? Could give me something to do while I wait for content patches.

#40

all the good players stopped playing classic years ago (hence why valhalla is a top guild there) and renewal is worse than wow. renewal removed everything great from ro and added everything bad

#41

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#42

while i agree with many of your points, i think you emphasized iRO’s good sides too much.

in fact, it’s not that good if you also think about the down side.

I only played renewal iRO for 1 year, reaching max level with two other friends. Maybe the old RO you were talking about is much better than the renewal version.

I wouldn’t say RO is better than TOS, i would say they are roughly the same tbh.

RO is very pay to win and bot to win.

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#43

ro renewal is 1000000x worse than vanilla iro. comparing the versions is like comparing tos to neopets

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#45

Because the nostalgia glasses broke, outside of WoE everything else feels dated, unless you’re the guy that loves 190aspd hitlocking/snaring a low-tier MvP since that’s all the MvPs in classic are, or the kind of guy that loves grinding for months to look good with an obnoxiously large aura.

#46

Best comment i’ve ever seen in this forum

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#47

i concur, maflores. that was the most articulate statement i’ve seen so far across this entire forum. well done mate.

also, i think your nostalgia glasses are malfunctioning. D:

p. s. imc if you’re reading this pls gimme an aura under my char so i can show off to n00bs. also pls make corsiritsmeurbrother a gm.

#48

Being a GM would mean dealing with everyone in this forum, that’s not as much of a good deal as being a CM under Oda.

Please, enlighten me with the fun things I can do in iRO classic, right now, that warrants this entire thread’s existence in comparison to ToS.

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#49

true, true. man, oda sounds like a cool duder.

i’unno man, i’m just here for the dank memes

#50

much dank
nice b8
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vry colo

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#51

haha man i c wut u did der xd