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[Dungeons] What do you want from your healer?

For someone who goes Cleric, Priest2, Paladin (maybe), Pardoner, Oracle, what would be the ideal int stat?

I think priests will eventually need to bring daino scrolls they buy from pardoners. Priest2/krivis has a definite advantage with it’s 10 buff limit via diano. (can just spam all the buffs)

Priest/paladin brings 2 more buffs to the table even. Resist elements is def good though. (though druids likely can cast it as well with 1 rank, found a plant mob that casts it…)
One of the few things i liked about a high lvl sacrament is that it tends to get overwritten the most. And it’s mostly good for auto attackers anyway which is most often the priest and maybe a melee or a archer.

@jkestepa
0. You’ll only have heal and cure that scale of int dmg wise. Both cannot hit flying and heal is better suited for ignoring enemies with the attribute. Indulgentia of pardoner doesn’t scale with any stat and Oracle has no dmg skills.
Either go some str/con route for a decent dmg dealer/tank or str/dex/con imo. + spr for a decent sp pool.

You’re definitely godsend because I’m pretty dedicated on making a good Support Cleric as all my friends went full DPS ham mode. Sorry if I’m kind of spoon feeding now as I’m busy with work and I don’t really have that much time to tinker with builds and stats alone.

So stat build should pretty much anything as long as I have around how much SPR, 20 should be enough or too little?

Thank you very much.

Was starting to find 20 on the low side now at lvl 110.
Still it’s incredibly easy for clerics to get by with little sp due to our long cooldowns/durations on skills. Might want to spend more when you get to pardoner and the 6th class though.

It’s probably best just to adapt it as you go though, as it also depends on your build quite a bit. If you run out of sp in a boss fight without potions then add more into spr. Same if you run out of sp after 5 minutes of grinding or so.

Otherwise statwise as a priest2/paladin you will benefit quite a bit of str/dex for auto attacks. But it’s not mandatory and you can just as easily spend more on con/spr. Int won’t do much for you though.

And i actually just found a knife (And apparently any class can use daggers as offhands), so when i get to the proper level i’m gonna need to do some testing on how that interacts with priest buffs and auto attacks. Cleric dual wield maybe? who knows.

This is an interesting topic. I’ve learned a lot about Cleric class. I have 1 question for my build though.

If I want to go support way, something like Cleric > Priest > Priest > Krivis (for Daino) > Priest > ?? (I’m still not sure what I want for my rank 6, maybe Paladin for more buffs, or Krivis again for stronger Zalciai), what stat should I work on to? I will probably put some points in SPR because some buffs scale with it. Then I’m thinking if I should put some point in INT for Heal and Mass Heal? Or I should just focus on STR/DEX for auto attack? I realize I do auto attack a lot while doing quests. And what do you think about this class path? Thanks.

Perhaps try:

Cleric, krivis2, priest2 druid akin to http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/jrgml7pps9/
Statwise perhaps 50 con, 50 spr, rest int build. Or more spr for debuffs.
Druid over paladin because it’s just that good. 10s aoe invuln, large aoe dmg spell and can copy skills monsters use. Resist elements cough.

Strength based a lot more variations are possible but few with 1 rank of krivis, but this springs to mind.
Cleric, priest2, krivis, monk2 akin to http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/gcmparpl3b/ could work well.
Either str/dex/con or str/dex/con/spr based should be fine.
It’s a lot less support and far damage though, but either way quite good.

And don’t worry about heal/mass healing scaling. Int barely adds anything after the first 100 levels. Then health is measured in the thousands and 500 int won’t even make a noticeable difference.

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Hi. I am also trying to go for a cleric, krivis and maybe priest combo but it;m not sure which one to get to circle 3. Krivis or priest? I’m aiming for a build that won’t take 20 min to solo a boss and also be a usefull buffer, 2nd healer if by any chance i’ll be in parties.

I want to know if the priest auto attack build is good at all lvls. I’m thinking then to switch from int to str (or dex for crit build?) as a main stat as I read that zaibas deals good dmg even without increasing int. I saw some vids of priest with sword/dagger and mace/dagger dealing very nice dmg due to the blessing/sacrament combo.

So far i’m low lvl krivis and main dmg comes from skills which is not bad but when grinding sometimes it’s good to have good auto’s too thus my idea to try the priest (otherwise i was thinking krivis3 and maybe paladin or bokor next).

You seem to know a lot about the cleric class so I would really appreciate your input. Thanks.

Tricky questions, not so much as in what combines well but as to what levels well.

I think the best str/spr build for that is atm cleric/krivis/priest2/monk2.
You get a agro mechanic in aukuras, a aoe to help clear enemies out, daino so you won’t have buff limit issues and good auto attack damage. Then when you get to monk you get even better skill damage. stat wise 8dex/2str imo.with up to 25-50 in con and spr.
And you’d be excellent defense/healing/damage/debuff hybrid.

Int builds are going to be considerably slower. As they’d need several circles just to get a good amount of spells.
Which i think is a real shame, and i hope it gets changed prior to release.

I was already thinking to go for priest for the next class change even if just to see how it is. I do like to use spells honestly. Stacking cure,zaibas and heal under bosses is really fun as they deal nice dmg and it’s flashy.

Anyway I will restat after changing to priest and probably stick with your suggestions, see how it will go. Should I aim for a shield or dagger for the secondary weapon at higher lvls?

Aim for a arde dagger imo. It’s one of the 2 daggers that should increase our auto atk and skill dmg. Ought to drop in the lvl 90 dungeon, didn’t get it yet myself so i can’t confirm that.

Otherwise a dagger is good for the piercing damage type, which is occasionally useful. But you need to use c to attack with it.
Shields offer a fair bit of defense though, so they’re also a good option.
Still not sure what the point of shovels is though.

If I can find a good dagger I will probably use it since heal and safety zone provide enough sustain and protection. Thanks for all your input. Super helpful. Now I finally have an idea of where to start with my build so I can test things out later.

About the priest is Sacrament worth maxing?

In the long run? no, not at all. Especially when most classes don’t rely on auto attacks as much as clerics do.

But it is very good while leveling solo, it adds +120 (80 of which is holy and rarely gets resisted) dmg to auto attacks and +40 to skills at level 10.
Still the synergy with blessing means you already have 300+ damage on auto attacks. And there’s to many good alternatives that do scale well for priests.

What about swordsmen and archers? I know that archers are not in the best position now but maybe later they will be able to use auto’s.
Anyway I have too many lvls to go until I unlock that skill so I’ll think about it more then.

Archers should always use one of their spammable attack skill like oblique shot, heavy shot, critical shot or stone shot because it adds flat damage, utility and doubles damage due to the enhance attributes.
If they still auto attack beyond that then they screwed up their build/stats quite a bit.

Swordsman has tons of melee skills that do far more damage. Plenty of their builds are also dex based because of that and don’t have that much auto atk dmg. But there’s a decent amount that does profit from blessing+sacrament.

Linkers/thaumaturges also tend to benefit a lot. But the latter also got provide a ton of dmg buffs which is annoying with the buff limit.

I see. I thought that maybe once the archers can switch to str/dex builds instead of spr then normal attack might be good too to spam. About swordies I only know from what I read on the forums that some builds go auto attack focused too.

I just got to my third class advancement today and got priest. I didn’t expect blessing to last so little…I guess I’ll have to buy lots of priest holy waters/powders. I also changed the stats from something like INT:CON:SPR 3:1:1 to DEX:STR 2:1 with a bit of CON and SPR. I placed some more STR for now since I don’t have enough points to get full crit. Zaibas lost about 90 dmg per tick which is sad but at least now my basic attacks don’t feel like 'm poking mobs with a toothpick :smiley:
I’m curious to see how fast bosses will fall with this build compared to the int one.

It’s a bit sad that there is no magic skill without a huge cd that can be used for grinding in the cleric classes. Perhaps for the next beta test.