Everyone already answer for me so there you go bruh.
Finestra giv 150crit rate. So i think str better?
I canât explain how greatful i am for all your opinions, alright, too many people voted Swordman C2 out, so i suppose youâre all right. The buffs will probably be a minor thing at higher levels.
@Lenny.
I will go for TwoHandSpear in the end, therefore i wonât even be able to use Swash or Umbo, and also. How did you get 18% evasion with Lv.5?
If the description is correct, you should obtain 6% per level, making it a total of 30% wouldnât it?
6% per attribute lvl. You can take skill at lvl 1 only and than learn an attribute at lvl 3 (max lvl for that attribute)
Oh, i see. I thought it was the level of the skill itself :]
Well however, are 18% still worth overwriting those 3 buffs from Swordsman C2 even if theyâre minor in the end?
Also, quick question.
Are those attributes for passives resetable?
u cant reset attibutes
anything with % is something that scale forever, while X dmg isnt. thats why is better
Ah, okay that makes sense!
But will i have enough attribute points to max out all the passive skills iâve chosen or do i have to choose wisely here?
u can max all skill attibutes, just need to have the money for it =) (some attributes need time to upgrade)
yeah, all those +100% dmg too⌠xD
You dont need a point for that passive skill.
Just a lot of

Alright, i understand.
But this raises another question, how can Concentrate be voted down so badly.
Increases the additional damage of [Concentrate] by 2 per attribute level.
And the max level of this is 50, giving it a total of 100 additional damage + 11 from the actual skill, and with a duration of 45s/ 20s cooldown. Thats a perma effect o.ò is that really not noticeable at higher levels?
Do you personally think 100 is a good amount? 
In addition with how high the enemy defense and how High their HP is in the later level/stage.
So u might as well just max out the skill itself and your stats to get a maxed out Physical attack.
Haha yes its quite pointless, i agree.
But its not like im trading alot for it.
Its Thrust vs Concentrate, and i dont think iâll ever use Thrust in the end, and Concentrate i will, even tho its a minor bonus.
I agree regarding the thrust, Iâm in the same page, but trading it over Bash is a bad idea, Bash have a great knockdown.
So its Iâm you Iâll go Bash, Gung Ho and Pain barrier. 
Okay, and i hope most people agrees now, im hoping for a confirm here.
I find Doppel way more effective than Cata here, and just like @Autentist mentioned, either Cata3 or not.
- Guardian 3 for passive.
- Umbo/Rim/Swash wonât be used due to 2H Spear as Dragoon.
- Deeds of Valor will probably be my favorite here, reminds of Quicken skill from Ragnarok 
- Double Pay Earn seems reasonable here since the exp will be extremely slow in the end.
And also, will Cyclone be useable with 2H Spear?
It dosenât say anything.
And pure Strength with this.
Any thoughts?
Gung Ho without doubt but, Guardian cannot be used while using Gung Ho 
Yep thatâs the only Cons sadly 
And yes, you can use it with 2H Spear just like 2H Sword so no worries there.
And u can either went full STR or 2:1 STR DEX
Choices is yours.
I think im going pure strength here, the damage and critical attack is somthing i always prio, and let the gear/skills work on the crit chance.
So overall, a decent build?
Anything that could be changed?
If so , do tell and also why.
Many thanks!
Nope, nothing else that needs mentioning for me, and yes its better if u went full STR and just pick an armor that rise your DEX.
Its more solid that way.
But some player might say that you should went and pick at least 1 thrust and leave Bash to 4 cause Bash cost a lot of SP and you never know when you need to use thrust against enemies thats weak against pierce and its spamable and also low SP.
But iâm against that logic same as you and max 5 Bash too 
Haha, great! and alright, then its settled.
And thank you @frould , you were correct regarding Pel as Rank2, and im sorry i doubted that 
Seeya all in OBT! 
Pretty much the standard Hoplite iCBT build + Dragoon. Itâs fine, have a good game!
