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Dragoon Build Help Please!

Class and Rank Swordsman
#62

I actually made it to Dragoon just this past week! Was very excited and I love it.But,some updates for you and anyone else interested:

This was my build going in:

However,I have made some tweaks to it in-game.

Most important: I would still very much recommend this build.It was nice to play and I liked the diversity of moves it gives me.Only thing I did differently was get to C2 Hoplite,then C1 Cata.Otherwise I stayed in order.

My stat points also took a slight change as I progressing through the game,but only in that Iā€™m putting slightly more into DEX at this point. At level 226 with 22k HP I feel mostly fine with CON for now. But otherwise 3:2:1 STR-CON-DEX is still my recommendation.At higher levels with those magic mobs, some higher CON is an absolute must.

For skills, the only changes I made were the following:

Put 1 point into Steed Charge and saw that it was a waste in my opinion, so instead I put the extra point into Impaler since my Catacombs Pike gives it bonus damage.

I prefer to stay mounted whenever possible, so I didnā€™t max Long Stride and instead split those points between Pierce and Spear Lunge because I like the damage they deal as a combo.

Iā€™m not very far past rank 7 at this point,so I canā€™t speak for all the Dragoon skills I have points planned for as of now,but I am a bit disappointed that Gae Bulg doesnā€™t have an aiming cursor. I may need to get used to it, but at the same time Spear Throw does have one and I donā€™t need to distance myself so much to possibly miss.So I may or may not rethink my points in that.

Otherwise Iā€™m plenty happy with my build as of now and wanted to update on my journey with it.

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#63

Great review @Melon! Iā€™m not going for Peltasta since Im not going for shield so dont wanna waste a class and point for that, and I know people went peltasta for Swash Buckling but Swordsman already have the Provoke attribute so Iā€™ll just go with that, even though its not similar it works pretty much the same nonetheless.

I Also knows people went for Hoplite 3 mostly for the spear throw, but I thought Iā€™m not going with that since Dragoon already have Gae Bulg which work pretty much the same until you say that they dont have the aiming cursor.

Now that make me rethink my whole Buildā€¦ :sweat_smile:

And mind explaining why Steed charge is a waste Melon?

And i gotta agree regarding the stay mounted but Long stride give me that Final fantasy Dragoon Jump feels so thats the only reason why im maxing that skill to be honest :joy:

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#64

Much better in putting your points in Earthwave and trot rather than in steed charge. even in cata c3 you canā€™t max all skills. go for max earthwave/trot then level 9 doom spike and at least lvl 1 impaler for PvP/utility and assuming youā€™ll get cata pike, it gives extra damage to impaler. Gae bulg is overrated in my opinion, you only max it for itā€™s attribute and thereā€™s nothing else to put your points because dragon soar sucks or itā€™s not yet working as intended (small range) though It gives me additional skill to use when my other skills is in cooldown thatā€™s why I put at least lvl 1 dragon soar. Gae bulg is more useful in PvP to finish off dying enemies, PvE wise itā€™s quite useless.

#65

Yeah I realized that very quickly.I wish I had that point back to put in something else,but Iā€™m not crying over it lol.

Iā€™m strictly PvE and wanted balance on my character for the stats that mattered for it.Iā€™m quite happy with my stats and their allocation so far.

#66

Steed charge is quite decent PvE wise and you only put lvl 1 so no biggie. At least it will give you additional skill for rotation. back in cbt2 I also got lvl 1 steed charge but I didnā€™t like it because you need to be stationary to use it. Iā€™ve heard recently that it was buffed, now you can charge it while moving. The important thing is that youā€™re happy with your build.

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#67

@ichbinzner @Melon Mind being a bit more detail regarding steed charge guys? Is it cause the damage is not that high or something else?

And I am planning to Max out Earth Wave and Trot, Also Doom Spike, but the extra 5 I just thought I wonā€™t really need Impaler so I just pick Steed Charge.

But both of you saying its not really good but for what reason? The CD? The Damage? Or something else?

Oh and Melon, If Gae Bulg donā€™t have that Aiming like Spear Throw from Hoplite, Does it throw to any monster we are currently highlighting or how?

#68

Doom spike have more dmg, additional points gives it more hits but i think in the future they will make it 5 hits regardless of skill level. If youā€™re maxing trot and earthwave you can only put level 9 doom spike assuming youā€™ll go c3 and get lvl1 impaler and max rush. Steed charge is not really worth the 1 point though looking at melonā€™s build (he only have c1 cata) itā€™s not really a problem because thereā€™s free points after you max earthwave/trot. Impaler is more of a PvP/utility skill, personally I left it at lvl 1 for PvP and because you get bonus damage from catacombs pike.

#69

I know About Doom Spike is a huge damage dealer thats why Im Maxing it at 5, but Iā€™m not going C3 Cata though, Just C2.

Thats why I said I have extra 5 point and people are saying Steed charge is not really good but i dont really get why.

#70

Steed charge lacks dmg compared to doom spike and earthwave. And when you go c3 cata you will have no spare points to put in steed charge. If you love PvP I suggest you go c3 cata.

#71

Classic, most balanced, optimal dragoon build both for solo and party play in pve is : sm c1- pelt c1 - hop c3 - dopel c1 - dragoon. Finestra 15, stabbing 15, pierce 15, deed 5, double pay 5, cyclone 5, full strenght, enough con to break 30k hp (or more if you like more, ide go for 40). This build even lets you pick shinobi as rank 7 if you ever change ur mind on dragoon.

#72

Not gonna PvP much so guess not~

And I know the most common build is that but i prefer being different :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks though guys guess I know what im going for with mine

#73

Why not maxing Stabbing? It is one of the most powerful skill in the Swordman tree.

#74

what u guy think about :-

Swordsman c1 > Pelt c1 > Hoplite c3 > Doppel c1 > Dragoon c1
Swordsman c2 > Hoplite c1 > Cata c3 > Dragoon c1

(help me choose either one, or must appreciate give me suggestion)
(probably use :- 70% pvp, 30% pve)

#75

Iā€™ve been reading a lot and in general it is said that or you go Sword c1 or c3, c2 doesnā€™t give much. The first build is the meta, if you go this one right now, I think (pve wise) youā€™re not going to have troubles in finding parties late game.
Another thing, if youā€™re going to use spears and you want hop in your build, go at least C2 to have Spear Lunge. It is a nice additon! Personally, I like hoplite a lot, and 2 of my tree swords have this class. :slight_smile:

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#76

for the term of pvp. I must get Cata ?
for Hoplite tree, can i know what your priority skills that u will max it ? Stabbing & piercing ? Spear lunge and long stride only learn lvl 1 only ?

can share your swordsman class build with me :stuck_out_tongue: ?
which class you choose for your hoplite build ?? ^^

#77

Sorry, canā€™t help you much in the pvp area. >.<
But, almost everybody gets Cata. I think a meta build in pvp is Sword C3>Cata C3> Dragoon.

In the Hoplite manner, IF youā€™re going Dragoon, you should (personal opinion here) max Stabbing, Finestra and the rest depend for what purposes youā€™re making this character. If PVP, Iā€™d put points in Long Stride, IF PVE,Iā€™d put like this: Stabbing 15, Finestra 15, Piercing 9, Spear Lunge 1 and Spear Throw 5. Why not maxing Piercing? Because it is not that good late game (my expirence with a 'Goon lv 235) and Dragon Tooth is so much better.

Edit:
My first toon is a build in which I followed @Autentist guide: Sw1>HL3>Hop2>Goon. I liked so much to play as Hop that Iā€™m making a second one which is Hop3>Corsair. :slight_smile:

#78

Thank you for your feedback, you really help me a lot.
But still so complicated and dilemma. Donā€™t know which one should i go.
I love hoplite because of Finestra :smiley: & Stabbing.
But just know Sm C1 > Pelt C1 > Hoplite C3 > Doppel C1 > Dragoon.
You think this build good in pvp too ? or not as good if compare to SM C3 > Cata C3 > Dragoon ??

Regarding Hop Tree again :frowning: sorry abit confuse .
Spear lunge i just put 1 point (really good enough?)

#79

You only want Spear Lunge for the debuff apllied, more points will only add more damage to the hit but it is negligible.

In the PVP manner, I canā€™t say much. Up till now I didnā€™t like it very much so I canā€™t help you.

#80

Oo okie brother :slight_smile: thank a lot.
After talking to you and take some advise from you.
Here my conclusion about my swordsman build.

Donā€™t mind give me advise on this build ?

#81

Really good for PvE and bosses. I would definitely max Finestra and Pierce, keeping Long Stride at 1 and putting the rest into Stabbing. Iā€™ve never used Doppel so Idk about the skills.