Don't build characters solely on buffs and auto attack

[FatePGN]

@GoldenCross That would make some builds very inefficient, however, if it’s a status ailement you use Indulgentia scrolls or Prophecy, and then rebuff, or even cure scrolls, or rely on party members that have those skills. If even after all that, it’s impossible to buff yourself in any way at all, then for that particular boss you will be gimped, and your more than likely going to rely on a party.

However, currently, there is no such boss. So it’s pretty safe to go with mostly buffs, especially when most skills (particularly for swordsman classes at different ranks/circles) are not all that great, or useful at all at later ranks depending on your build.

In the future, it may be much more useful to gain new skills, but currently, it’s fine and viable with the content available.

[SixPool]

There’s more ways to play the game than 1

Then you’ve already defeated your own argument. Don’t tell people not to do this and say there’s more ways to play a game than 1.

I can supplement my crit with other methods.

And I can supplement my STR/damage with other methods. My way just gives me buffs all the time, where yours has down times.

Then you better pray you get your Safety Barrier up all the time. Pain Barrier is another way to overcome this. Again, more than 1 way to play a game.

Yes ignore the DEX argument. Gives you credibility.

Sacrament gives HOLY damage, which works well against undead. 2 blows of the right element > 2 blows of non-element.

Holy damage is not nerfed by any element. So Sacrament is ALWAYS BETTER. My build just gives me the ability not to rely on my Cleric. And it also gives me more additional attacks.

Maybe for the beginning of the battle. 2 minutes in, some buffs have expired earlier than others, try and coordinate that again.

This is the point of my build. I don’t have to coordinate again because I’ll have buffs to cycle. I won’t need rebuffs from others.

Things like max level Cartar Stroke, max level Stabbing, etc. - which you won’t have much of if you go for your heavy buff + AA build.

The only 2 none buff skills I don’t have maxed out is Embowel and Stomping Kick. So my SUSTAINED buff AA DPS is definitely going to be as strong, if not stronger, than your build with your additional 2 skills.

Having extra skills at my disposal is not exactly gimping my character, don’t know where you got that from.

It does if the mob/boss is strong defensively against that type of attack. My build, you can just weapon swap to fit your needs.

[GoldenCross]

Lol yes your magical build.
Again you fail to see what happens when your buffs get overriden, you assume that your perfect coordination with your clerics is going to be flawless, that he’s going to dedicate all that attention to you.
I really hope they implement bosses that wipe out buffs just so your magical build gets rekt lol

[Spaghetti]

Sixpool specifically earlier said that because he has swordie buffs he won’t have to coordinate with the priest to get a buff to augment his dps and your are twisting his words. AA swordie builds SPECIALIZE at being top tier solo-ers with their buffs so if they dont get a priest buff here and there, they’re fine. The skill builds are the ones that would need the priest buffs more.

Now your talking about how you want his build to fail. Salty much?

[SixPool]

Obviously your rebuttal was perfectly thought out. Congratulations.

Literally no one on this thread fully agreed with you. And still you can’t see how absurd your unsupported claims are. I wish you all the luck on your trash build. And pray that you learn how to argue better instead of having to resort to “Hope they make a boss to counter your build. HERP DERP.”

And @FatePGN already “rekt” your argument in literally the first reply.

PS. Watch Steparu’s videos and tell me full buffs aren’t viable. Lol.

[SixPool]

It’s fine man. He can run with his trash build all he wants. While I faceroll everything in my way. Lol.

I mean I’m sure he can keep up with my DPS with all the skills he has. It’s not like he needs SP to use them anyway, right? Lol.

[II_JoJo_II]

[Vyrmael]

Steparu said that Sadhu is better at fast attacking because of its pure INT based attacks and faster than Corsair without much effort. LOLWUT ALL THESE ARGUMENTS. Better just go for Sadhu in that case.

Sarcasm aside, really good vid by Step. Didn’t expect Corsair could hit that much damage though, fast even in his current ping!

[chilly0123]

I don’t understand this topic, are people already arguing about what the best builds are for each class now? Before we even see the full game and the rank 7+ jobs?

[Daikuza]

Playing Solo: use all your buffs.
Playing in Party: use 2-4 of your best buffs+ party buffs.
problem solved.

I don’t understand this topic, are people already arguing about what the
best builds are for each class now? Before we even see the full game
and the rank 7+ jobs?

^this

[Spaghetti]

No it’s about the best builds for specifically swordsman (not each class , the op made that clear). OP feels that the auto attack swordie builds (in particular the Barbarian and it’s buffs) are not viable in party play because buffs like frenzy and aggressor may get overwritten by buffs cast on them by clerics and wizards. We agreed that auto attack barb builds excel at soloing, if not tge best at it, but the dissent is its not good in party play. That’s the topic.

Nobody on this thread is going order. About what’s the best build for each class. Don’t see how you came to that conclusion.