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Do people still build full dex?

Actually they nerfed crit. Now crit chance from crit rate can be negative.
So for sneak hit with 50% crit it will be like 50% + (0-200)/280*42%=20%. If you have 0 crit rate and enemy has 200 crit def.

Before it was 50% in that case.

Mmmm what str:dex ratio is ok now for a Quarrel Shooter?

Full DEX. Archers gain bonus dodge/crit from DEX unlike other classes. :^)

Full DEX is OK, but I’d rather go Full STR/ 2:1 STR:DEX /1:2 STR:DEX. QS bonus damage can’t crit anyway.

And but every 7th point in CON so you’ll get 40 at level 280.

That’s how I’ll do it, at least.

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you’re really butthurt about this game but please stop stomping on others people fun especially when you are mad about people disliking your opinion here :confused:

With 3 level 10 green gems and proper gearing for crit rate you can get over 400 crit rate easy without even putting a single point in dex, the highest crit resist monster I could find in the tosbase database was ~100 at level 285. This means that without putting a single point in DEX you could still almost reach 50% crit rate just by itemizing and gemming correctly. This means you can devote all your points into STR while only losing the evasion, in my mind it isn’t even a question as far as end game goes. STR is simply better investment because of the bonuses and the fact that crit rate is easily obtainable from gear.

Level 10 gems are designed for lvl 500 probably, or at least level 400. So as the game progresses it would be much harder to keep decent crit chance w/o investing in DEX.

Also there are lots of str/damage buffs while no crit rate buffs aside of finestra. So relying on buffs and gear for damage is just as good as relying on gear for crit rate.

Building DEX or STR is mainly determined by classes you pick. Such classes as hoplite/highlander benefit more from STR, while fencer benefits more from DEX.

unless higher level’s materials give substantially more exp, it won’t be.

I’ll just be another ‘for the insane’ option since the exp required is…not practical to aim for.

But after learning of the exp required, any time I see someone mentions lv 10 gem like it’s easily obtained (and 3 of them at that) I just /facepalm

That’s why I said it’s level 500 item. At level 500 you will probably want to get the best possible gems in your weapon.

At 280 level 5-7 is enough.

It’s still not really.

Even at lv 600, you’re probably looking at using 3 lv 8 gems for a looooooong time (1m exp each, which all 3 combined still not even 1 lv 10 gem)

again, lvl 10 gem is like +20 and higher enhancement on weapon, it’s there as possibility and something of a long term goal, but not something you’d consider ‘common’

Can someone give me info how much exp is needed to level up gems in the higher levels?

I have noticed the pattern to be inconsistent.
1->2 300
2->3 900 (3 times increase)
3->4 2700 (3 times increase)
4->5 10800 (4 times increase)

Don’t know how much it takes after that. My guess is, it will increase 4 times from 5->6, then increase 5 times from 6->7 and 7->8, then increase 6 times from 8->9 and 9->10?

Again this is pure theory, please disregard it if you have some solid info.

There is an exp table in vyne tos mechanics guide.

Cheers, I actually read that guide a few weeks ago but didn’t notice if had the exp tables for gems.

we probably can use lvl 6 gems (32 crit rate) they are like 52k xp, not impossible for a lvl 280

You guys really are talking about lvls 500 and 600? that sh*t dosnt even exists yet, why not focus on actual game rather than dream about stuff that provably takes a year or more to happend.

my level 100 pure dex priest is doing pretty fine still.
dealing about 2k auto attacks which 1-3 hit kill most monsters around my level.

What weapon are you using? My heavy DEX cleric deals only about 1k damage with crits and ~600 if not crit.

2k is really a lot.


Level 500 is planned. Feel free to make a character that will probably suck in end game and don’t think about future.

+7 gold falchion + arde dagger, both with level 5 yellow gems.
also using cafrisun set for an additional attack that gets boosted by blessing.

crits are about 1k-1,3k then the 2 additional attacks deal about 400-500 each

yeah, ill be crying a lot in a few years lol
play it now, not just doing calcs