Did anyone make a barbarian dragoon yet?

[Alyu_aint_short]

I’m quite curious to know if warcry extends dragoon’s debuffs.I kinda see it as a possible dps/melee support build.

[iceblaze1994]

I’m a level 330 Sword3, Barb3, Goon2. Warcry does extend the Serpentine and Dethrone duration, but it’s only mostly helpful on bosses. Serpentine’s (aswell as most Dragoon skills) don’t have the best AoE attack ratio like Barbarian skills do. Against a group of mobs, it can be hard to spread Serpentine.

[OhmSenpai]

thanks for info !
20chars

[Planeptune]

i’m making barb2hop2goon2

support both slash and pierce type

[tampon]

Why Barb 2? Wouldn’t you get more from Barb 1 and then getting either Hop 3 or Doppel?

[Aotsuke]

Warcry is barbarian circle 2, I suppose he’s aiming for that.

[tampon]

Warcry’s debuff extension is only available for Barb C3

[redwea]

Have you tried warcry + gae bulg? Gae bulg at lv 10 debuff have 10 sec for double damage on target with big aoe. Idk why many build or post doesn’t highlight this skill.

[Fuwaro]

Making a new kind of build is nice , but imo, Barbs would still be sub par for Goons. Warcry’s cd is still damn long to be fully utilized for Goon debuffs.

[Aotsuke]

Oh okay. Since I’m barb 3 I haven’t paid attention to which circle it was…
Makes sense, would be unfair to give such a thing on circle 2.[quote=“Fuwaro, post:9, topic:351908”]
Warcry’s cd is still damn long to be fully utilized for Goon debuffs.
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Not even talking about the others attributes that are now close to useless since they increase the cooldown of the skill…

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Gae bulg at lv 10 debuff have 10 sec for double damage on target with big aoe. Idk why many build or post doesn’t highlight this skill.

I touched on that topic a few months ago and have concluded (along with many other players) that it isn’t worth it.

[Dragoon] Understanding Gae Bulg - worth it or nah?

TLDR: Considering skill point investment, CD (which means debuff uptime is very low), damage, and targetting are all not worth it for PVP when you could put those points into Soar and/or Tooth instead. PVE-wise, the ~15-20% damage increase is definitely worth it for party-play/supporting and minmaxing your burst/glassmole build. For PVE soloing, you'll lose DPS trying to include it in your rotation. Skill info: https://tos.neet.tv/skills/11403 Observations ~15-20% damage increase. Definite…

Maybe that will change now with a new Goon2 meta?

I’m a level 330 Sword3, Barb3, Goon2. Warcry does extend the Serpentine and Dethrone duration, but it’s only mostly helpful on bosses. Serpentine’s (aswell as most Dragoon skills) don’t have the best AoE attack ratio like Barbarian skills do. Against a group of mobs, it can be hard to spread Serpentine.

Thanks for the info. Still looks like a fun build to roll though. I’ve never seen a Dragoon performing Pouncing. Also, if only they actually made Giant Swing work in PVP. I can just imagine the plays one can make (G. Swing > Dethrone = can’t touch me!)

[redwea]

Thanks. Worth reading. I’m only at dragoon c1 now and after some test, I conclude that the extra line almost equals to my normal damage. I’ll do some test more when higher level.

[iceblaze1994]

I have done that combo, but Gae Bulg really doesn’t help my damage much. Gae Bulg doesn’t give me double damage; it HALVES my damage, and then applies it twice. I do have it at level 10 however, not because of it’s debuff, but because it’s ranged and has deece damage. (Gae Bulg + Pouncing is a fun combo, but isn’t really necesary for damage… Serp gives more.) My Serp and Dragon Soar are both level 1. I sacrifice damage because I want to conserve SP on attacks.

[iceblaze1994]

Giant Swing doesn’t work on people in pvp, sadly. It does work on pets, though.