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Daily Reminder: FleeTiPi is a Diamond's alt guild abusing GvG ranks! As well Alpha is cheating!

General Discussion
#57

I like Lost’s suggestions to fix GvG, sadly just like in RO if people can find an exploit then expect people to try to take advantage of it. Having timeout and penalties for rejecting is key, as good guilds are not doing this.

If we get paired against a stronger guild, then we take the L.

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#58

I’ve also seen them fight other guilds and am sure they’re not one of the win trading guilds as I said instances happen by chance and cant just go around accusing all guilds of doing it but there are Balant offenders out there that is obvious cough cough Diamond Cough Cough Alpha.

#59

And by them I mean Cute Not Lewd they’re not doing that Win trading bullshit.

#60

So much butthurt over a dying game.
Those people understood that if imc doesn’t give fck, so they shouldn’t either.
Just like those last days of icbt2.
Are you seriously implying they will ban anyone and kill their online even more?

#61

No they shouldn’t ban them bc it’s IMC fault not theirs but they should implement these:

1- A decay system that takes off points if you miss a day or 2 of GvG.

2- You can only reject a GvG match once a day in case of an emergency,any rejects afterwards will cause the guild a lost and the other guild a win automatically.

3- Anyone that wants to spectate a match should always have a 5 minutes delay so we don’t get any players spying on other guilds strategies.

4- If you reject a match after the first time,not only you will lose points but you will be not be able to queue up again for 10 minutes.Another reject will add another 10 minutes to the penalty which will add up to 20 minutes of waiting time for the third time you reject and so on.

5- They should add a system where you need players to check ready before the queue button lights up.This system will let a minimum of 10 players require to GvG.This is system will prevent those small guilds from win trading.If you do not have at least 10 guildmates online and check ready to queue for gvg then the button will stay gray.

6- Requiring 5 games played minimum a week to qualify for TP rewards.

@STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Max @STAFF_John @staff @GM_Francis @GM_Sebastian

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#62

Whoa, Long Thread! I see this is about GvGs. Got it Dutch. will review it.

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STAFF_Yuri will ban Diamond, Alpha and other guilds abusing GvG ranks!
#63

make it like wow or ff14. you get a 30 mins timeout if you reject the queue.

#64

Do you got what is about this dear Yuri? Guilds makes another guilds to feed themselves.

#65

Lol, it’s nice that we’re being talked about once in a while. I can say this on behalf of Asperity (Klaipeda) if anyone is wondering but you don’t have to read them.

  1. We have been playing in GVG since it was released. We may have missed a few weeks mostly during when the ranking was broken.
  2. We’d be fine matching up with anyone but since we’re mainly a PVE guild, guilds like Lotus and Crimson obliterate us so sometimes we try to avoid those fights (but not reject them) as they’re not that fun in a one-sided fight.
  3. We’re in the top guild because we’re one of the few guilds that actually queue up more than 1-2 times a week but yes we sometimes match with guilds like FleeTipi.
  4. QUEUE UP! It’s actually nice to have some match with guilds at similar member levels. We had fun when our match can go either way. One time we lost once but match up with the same guild again bringing in more members this time and won.

@DewDrop
@Csiko Don’t think I matched with Impetus yet but I don’t catch some GvGs that our guild leader queue up for.

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#67

4- If you reject a match after the first time,not only you will lose points but you will be not be able to queue up again for 10 minutes.Another reject will add another 10 minutes to the penalty which will add up to 20 minutes of waiting time for the third time you reject and so on.

#68

YA right BS man your under Diamond payroll and we know it so please don’t try to sucks up the IMC staff,Why wait now to tell us your not win trading lol,its because IMC responded and trying to kiss ass.The reason why there was no win trading tonight hahaha.

You Asperity one of the top guilds LMAO are you stupid or Blind?Diamond being feeding of you and FleeTipi and then you guys get off some wins from FleeTipi .Do you all think we don’t know what’s going on.

Tonight GvG everyone is trying to be legit now lol idiots. Diamond didn’t even Q tonight nor did FleeTipi lol.At least Alpha had balls to Q up and face the music.

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#69

Alpha guild being “alpha”.

hue hue hue

#70

We support you, investigate every single one of these cheaters :+1: :+1: :+1: :+1:

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#71

guys, if more and more guild keep making alt, then, every guild will face each other alt guild. free tp for them.

we have to make them stop.

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#72

To my understanding, Alpha only reacted to the blatant cheating when it wasn’t being addressed by, well, fighting fire with fire, no? Weren’t they cucked out of 16k points as well?

If there wasn’t any resolution and it took a thread providing a daily reminder to get a GM to finally “investigate” if that happens, then the system is ■■■■■■ from the get-go.

Hilariously enough I wasn’t aware that Alpha would cheat up until the moment that IMC declared they don’t give a damn about the fact they were cucked. I’m quite positive otherwise they function legitimately.

Can someone fill me in on that?

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#73

Hi, I am the GL of TeamAqua and I would like to clarify that under no concept are we making win trade with anyone.

TeamAqua recently started its participation in gvg with the intention of motivating our members to make specific builds for gvg, we certainly lost the gvg given the little initial participation but by the end of the week we got a participation of 7 people who were motivated to start builds specifically for gvg, so I feel that the initial goal was achieved. Also many members wanted to see how it was to play gvg.

Certainly because of the number of users and type of organization that have clans like Lotus we could not even scratch them but other than that we had some very entertaining games against other smaller clans.

So I ask to stop making false accusations against other clans like CuteNotLewd, TeamAqua and some others without real evidence and just based on simple speculations or some random matches, thank you.

Sorry for any grammatical lack, English is not my native language.

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#74

Yes… let this game end…
And no. Im not one of them…

/huehuebandwagon

#75

Fighting cheating with cheating doesn’t solve anything and the only reason Alpha created an alt guild is cause they’re not good enough to stand with the top guilds of Klaipeda and are using whatever bullshit reason they’ve come up with to justify it.

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#76

They also could have just continued to queue legitimately and would have guaranteed roughly the same rank they are now without spamming char select for 20-30 minutes a night and rejecting legit matches, instead of what they did, which was ■■■■■■■ over other guilds legitimately trying to queue.

Y’know, and not traded wins and throw their dignity to the wind.

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#77

But… it looks like them cheating is solving things. A GM is finally investigating the issue, after months of dozens of guilds abusing the system. A top ranked guild that consistently finished top 4 in the past couple months named their alt guild blatantly “Aipha” and started to cheat and sparked this change. Doesn’t seem like they are hiding what they’re doing like FleeTipi/Diamond, Ravens/Crows, SleepDeprived/Tenebres, etc…

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