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Cleric full suport

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#5

The only weakness cleric have is the inability of hit flying mobs, i can’t say for sure about priest offensive skill(s), but honestly, its like you are playing a caster just less attack options, you could pick Krivis for Zaibas too or go STR DEX build till level 75 then change to INT SPR, there are a bunch of people close to that level i think. some people stopped at higher levels and decided to start a new char.

I started a new cleric 3 days ago, i play when i’m not playing my sorc and i’m making a monk, did STR DEX build and got Priest C2, Blessing, aspersion and sacrament help lots on the basic attacks.

#6

Nope.

You personally have 10 buffs and a 5 buff limit, it’s junk in comparison to well built full support cleric.
Which aren’t a good option to begin with when most builds can incorporate several roles without sacrificing anything in return.

And you need to pin point what type of support/roles you want, if you want healing go priest2 and maybe paladin3. If you want tons of invulns grab bokor2 and druid. If you want to focus on debuffs then grab priest2 and krivis for monstrance and zalcai. etc etc.

Class tips:

  • Cleric2 & Cleric3 are currently only recommended for sadhu oob builds, and maybe pardoners. But not for anything else.
  • Priest2 is a must for healing, the dmg bonus of blessing is also very nice. Scales well with str/spr builds. Lousy for int builds due to a lack of spells. Priest3 and priest1 are good on their own right but don’t quite hit the sweet spot.
  • Krivis excels for support builds due to daino alone, even at r1 it’s +5 to buff limit. Very good int based dmg and a nice spr based physical dmg buff.
  • Bokor2 offers a mobile invuln and physical dmg zombie skills, some decent utility/damage for int builds as well. Low on support otherwise though. Spr build bokors might be quite good as well, but ask someone other then me for advice on that.
  • Dievdirby doesn’t see much use outside of grinding and boss fights. Most other content are short fights that last about as long as their cast times… Decent filler if nothing else fits though.
  • Sadhu is a pure magical dmg, mostly because it’s debuff is junk and nobody ever goes sadhu3 to test out it’s buff anyway.
  • Paladin offers excellent support with reduced element dmg, improved healing, sp regen and protection vs melee enemies. Also deals physical dmg on the side. paladin3 or paladin1 recommended.
  • Monk is a pure physical dmg class, no support here. Decent for fleshing out builds though.
  • Pardoners can provide a very strong magical defense buff and condition cleanse, along with profit making skills on the side. Ideal with 1 krivis, priest3 or oracle.
  • Druid can be fit into almost any build, high dmg, 10s aoe invuln and a choice of free bonus skills? Can’t be outdone.
  • Oracle is rather bad atm in comparison to just about anything. Especially due to how majority of good loot comes from boxes and not regular mobs. And pardoner oracles can sell a chunk of their skills. Combined ideally with pardoner for that reason, might as well make bank out of it.
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#7

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You thinks is a good Build?

#8

I actually have no problem leveling my Priest C2, though I did get Krivis in rank 2 because I thought that it will hard to grind with a priest, but I was surprised that once I got Priest C2 (and even with C1) I usually rely on my normal attacks. With Blessing, Sacrament and Cafrisum set, I usually 2-hit most mob. I don’t have any STR, I have 40 INT for Krivis, and DEX all the way for crit since my weap has a good +crit attack. XD

If I am to reset and if I am willing to forego Daino, I might just go with Priest. I honestly think that with the normal attacks I can reach a decent level solo. I am level 123 now, and still using the same strategy, though I switched my shield for Arde Dagger at level 75. At a later level though, once I’m a paladin and/or druid, I might reset my stat to SPR and CON since they said that CON is the way to go in higher levels but I want to check that first. SPR since that’s how the priest skills scale with base level.

#9

I have Cleric>Priest>Priest>Priest>Paladin>Oracle :wink:

#10

It depends what you want to do, what kind of role you want to play.
On those two builds, Sacrament is high level/maxed. But there’s no point to it. Sacrament doesn’t give a big boost, and doesn’t scale well at all. A level 1-2 is more than enough.
Mass Heal is an amazing skill: it’s aoe and it heals a lot. It should always be taken, even if it isn’t maxed. I think a Mass Heal 3 is good enough.
Deprotected Zone isn’t that good imo since you need to make sure the enemies don’t move out of it (I’d take Cure instead of it).
I also wouldn’t max Turn Undead and instead put some skill points in Smite for the extra DPS.
For Pardoner, I’d put points in Indulgentia since it heals status and deals decent damages.
I don’t know much about Druid, it seems decent~

#11

take krivis1 first before priest1. it helps with your grind.

#12

He’ll be fine priests can solo like a beast.

#13

i’m saying it because i was full support and you get to a point where it’s take too much time to advance, a full grinding game where you take hours to level up, then being full support multiply the time you spend x2, because you don’t do enough damage, that is why.

#14

Depends on how you build priests can keep up with swordsman attacks.

#15

i’m cleric>claric>priest>priest, planning to become FS too. my strategy is pretty basic, i got heal and cure to lv 35, and just lure the monsters around it till they die, with sacrament and blessing it gets really easy, i can hit’em and get at least some damage, but i think that its not the best way to go. Priests can solo very well in comparison to other non suport classes, it has some sort of strenght, but it gets really complicated at some point around the 60 to 80, i had to use my exp cards cuz i couldn’t take it anymore. It appears to me that there isn’t in ToS no such thing as full suport builds, but please, correct me if i’m wrong

#16

It’s not impossible, it’s just night useless imo.

You will always need help while leveling past 130 as a full support class, maybe even before that. Some mobs will have far to much health and defense even for a priest3 to reliably take down. There’s still a good chunk of weaker enemies later on but you will have to fight bosses and tougher mobs in quests and dungeons.

Then there’s the second issue, you contribute no damage or next to no damage. Parties can only fit 5 players, the more dmg you have the better and safer a dungeon run is. Especially on easier dungeons most parties will simply not want a full support build to tag along. Because it’s a drain on xp for no good reason. (oracles might be the exception with their chance to spawn rare mobs, but that’s just 1 rank)

That also includes the 175 dungeon, which has such easy mobs most classes solo it with ease. Full support classes not so much though, even on my priest3/sadhu my gear would break before i could kill all the enemies. If there’s going to be more “solo friendly” dungeons and people pick up on it leveling a fs will become even more difficult.

tl/dr:
Party slots are limited, fs don’t contribute enough damage to be good options. And leveling/questing is going to be a nightmare.

The closest thing i can think of however is a spirit based cleric with 2priest/1krivis that focuses on monstrance/daino/Zalciai to greatly improve physical dmg for the entire party. What you want aside of that is pretty flexible though.

#17

Haven been putting half of my points into SPR as a Priest C1 / Kirivis (next C3 Priest), however, there is a demolish return on Deprotected, and you are still weak in attack with Arde and Cafrisun.

The biggest issue as a full support is that heals are going into cooldown too often, and it is better to have 2 hybrid healer than a 1 full support. Half of your time are not contributing, as you are either waiting for cooldown, or you are not doing enough damage.

#18

Arde/Sacrament/Cafrisun dmg isn’t affected by any stat to begin with. It’s more that spr builds boost both your and your teams physical dmg with every debuff. Zalciai being the best we got so far. And it’s not like dex or str give us more dmg.

The lack of healing is only a issue for anything that isn’t a priest2, which i do think needs better balancing for other builds tbh. (revive = op)
Damage prevention can still work wonders for any build though, sterea trofh, safety zone, stone skin, Mackangdal, etc…

And frankly it’s also the responsibility of your teammates to bring proper builds and items to keep themselves alife.

I’ve seen plenty of sorcerer/linkers who were of great help dps wise, but dropped below 50% health every 1-2 hits from enemies and had to run in circles till my healing would recharge.
In comparison the 27k thaumaturge/linker i met barely even needed healing while still providing us with tons of dmg and support.

Cleric healing on it’s own just isn’t capable of keeping the party alive no matter what happens.

#19

The only thing you can do is auto attack, as you have low INT/STR with a SPR build. Zalciai aside, other debuffs are more stationary, so it is not something you rely on when solo. As for Zalciai, you still need DEX, as it boost your Crit Attack, but not your Crit Rate. Adding Monstrance is required.

Pardoner has a group heal (400 zeny each). But I wish they have another heal, as none of them are easy to use in situation.

Indeed, and regardless, those are not builds for PvP. You got to have CON or DEX in PVP.

#20

As i said before and before;
Zalciai improves overal crit chance by lowering enemy crit resistance by 1 per spirit with it’s debuff. See:

Nor does pardoner have a heal, watch the skill video on tosbase.
It’s mistranslated, it simply “heals” all conditions. Aka bleeding, petrified, frozen, poisoned, stunned etc etc.

And i’m not speaking about pvp. Just generic pve stuff.

#21

Didn’t know this is Cure.

As for Zalciai, the time on debuff is so short, you may get 2 or 3 hits for 20 seconds. It is good for group attack, but again, when you are solo or separated in PvP, it may not be as useful. But regardless, it is only a Rank 2 skill.

#22

Do you play in a party? Are you able to use all your buffs or do you feel that daino would be better?

#24

and yes, I play in a party

#25

you have to know what time you can use a buff… not all buffs have much time and you should use them in some particular moments… I think a cleric full support is going to lose potential if he select “krivis” only for daino :smile: