Yeah I guess clearing 40f with a known hooker is an accomplishment on the third world server. GJ.
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Who is he to deem it as an bug abuse and not usage of 3rd party programs if he doesn’t even know anything himself? He tried to get someone to defend his own guild member by sharing how to replicate the so called “bug” and how it happened. I discredited whatever he said with a 2nd video that whatever was said wasn’t what this guy “Demon” did.
What was mentioned in the patch note the day after I reported this guy was Raise Dead
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Will no longer be able to summon more skeleton soldiers than intended.
from https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=693 . No where did it say summoning more skeleton than intended was due to a BUG and not due to usage of 3rd party program which I suspect your guild member is using right from the start anyway. You dont expect them to write " Patched hook64 allowing multiple summons of skeleton soldiers" do you?And to your last claim that ALL of you don’t cheat, well, guess what, I caught one of you cheating
@tosbosshunter13 I quit the game before R8, and in doing so gave up my membership to Crimson—no use trying to hold a spot for someone who wasn’t going to play any time soon, so I resigned. During my membership there was never an instance of abuse or exploiting. Sure, from time to time there was drama, but most of it was respectfully kept between members.
The video of the member you posted was after I had left, so I can not vouch for their actions. I can’t watch it right now but judging from the details I read, I would side with you though and say that it was intentional exploiting. If the skill cap states that 5 is the maximum, then anything you do to break that cap would be an exploit, as the rule has clearly stated a maximum.
As a Thaum FF I often relied on Swell Body + Ngadhundi in later levels—it was unclear if the interaction was a bug or a feature because it worked exactly as mechanically expected: new max hp, degenerates post Swell expiration based upon perceived HP losses. A lot can be said for the interactions between skills in ToS—there are some “mechanics” that shouldn’t appear to work, but clearly do, and it has led to some interesting takeaways. Take Barrage + Feint for instance: how does lowering enemy evasion result in massive gains from the specific skill Barrage? Mechanically it isn’t sound, but in practice it performs and created an entire meta. Were all Ranger Rogues exploiters? Doubtful, which is why I was comfortable using the Thaum FF mechanic as at least its interaction was plausible on paper as defined by the rules of the skills. I say this because there is plenty in ToS that may be broken, but understanding the difference between an interaction and something that breaks a skill is important. Since the skeletons have a cap, then anything performed to break that cap would be an exploit. If someone accidentally ran around with 6-7 skeletons then it could be understandable if reproduction was simple enough to be an accident, but anything higher displays intent for abuse.
In all, Crimson has always upheld high standards, and the expectations for its members are equally high. I would not be surprised if the member in question from your video was kicked. The kind of player who would exploit once is likely to be the type that would do it again—getting caught is no excuse because it is the willingness to perform the action that is the fault.
But, to stay on topic—I don’t see Crimson having any reason at all to crash a battle, even if only to fight fire with fire, nor are the members I recall the type who would stoop to such levels.
A man must admist his mistakes i was wrong to mention @Soviet and @Crayons guild INERTIA had nothing to do with you CRIMSON crashing our match for whatever reason your guild or one of your members has.
@LunarRabbit stop triying to cop out and face the reality that i accused your guild first before naming anyone else.
Kaenmaru out.
So, that is what iToS had became… interesting. No wonder why the lower player base haha
You awfully remind me of another cheater guild that tries to feign innocence…
Cheaters will always try to prove they have not been cheating. You can give up, everyone knows @Soviet is a hook64 cheater.
huehuehue
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For you I only have this:
We did not crash. No reason to do so. Already near reset. Already #1 with good range average. Already lost to you when points were close and things were worse - no crashes.
To matches to finish normally when losing during deciding moments but to a match to crash when things are all peaceful and nothing in rank would change I can only think of someone doing it for framing purposes. Period.
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Whoever is accusing Crimson is retarded because you are seriously calling them out for 1 SINGLE MATCH!?
LMAO cmon guys what happen when Crimson destroyed Alpha 200 times?
Was that also Hook64 and cheats all those 200 times?
Crimson been number 1 guild in NA for like ever and have a huge score lead right now annnnnnd have lost to Alpha a couple of times before so why cheat on that specific night?
What is so special about that ONE NIGHT THAT CRIMSON HAD TO CHEAT versus the other 200 times Crimson clean the floor with Alpha LMAO.
Ya like I mention earlier Crimson took some loss from Alpha in the past and accepted being defeated.
You all are crying like babies over 1 game,please get over yourselves move on hahaha.
To be honest if any Alpha players are trying to accuse Crimson for cheating are hypocrites,when their the ones cheating with the win trades and trying to boasting themselves.Crimson never needed a second guild to get “FreeTP” nor needed to cheat to avoid one ■■■■■■■ loosely loss LMAO.
You think Crimson will lose their marbles if they lose a couple of matches in GvG?If Crimson had to cheat it would be against a guild that worth cheating against like for example Lotus who is a very strong guild.Alpha is a joke guild just like Diamond and cheat to be top 5 because they can’t win against Lotus or Crimson.
Side Note:I admit that win should of gone to Alpha regardless of the people getting DC/BUG or crashed from both guilds but the match crashed…end of story move on before you get a heart attack over 1 MATCH LOL.
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I wish I could afford that considering I’m finishing up school and not working, that’s a pretty bold claim.
Oh my, drama!
I guess they’re going to get exposed now after QQing so much about my threads. Karma~
Mind explaining where the silver that @Soviet used to pay everyone to farm materials for him came from as well the silver for 2k+ shards for stage 10 as well high attributes on the most expensive class (attribute-wise)?
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How is this in any way relevant to you guys crashing GvG? You’re trying to deflect pretty hard here.
No, I’m totally asking because I’m curious how much time you guys spent preparing for those runs, you said we could ask anything such as attributes and skills. May I ask how high are attributes of the Doppel and the Elementalist?
Doppel > https://tos.neet.tv/attributes?cls=Char1_9&f=1
Elememe > https://tos.neet.tv/attributes?cls=Char2_11&f=1
yw
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Personally, I’ve been doing Saalus on anywhere from 10-20 characters since the day Blessed cubes were patched in, so thats the majority of my prep. So due to the nature of my spec I was able to distribute that whether it be silver, shards, or gems where I felt it needed to go. I maintained a relatively low lvl of trans on my gear, max 2 on accessories, and stage 2 on my hasta pants.
I’ll post specifics when they give them to me.
Enters in from the void
Sighs this nonesense again. Its the same with witch hunting Soviethammer and any other witch hunt. Its completly useless. USELESS.
Imc doesnt care,most of the community doesnt care. So why bother? Game is dying. Losing more players by the month spite the tiny “gain” it sometimes get, due to all the pay2win, hook 64, bad class balancing, lag, peak hour dungeon running and a hell lot more problems to list I wont waste my work break on to list.
Games gonna be dead, so just have your “fun” and hurry up and move onto the next game. Sighs, kids these days, doesnt learn things quick.
Summons a void portal and jumps in
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I can’t speak for the other people who we saw in market with high value items but @Crayons Calindrea has 3-5 necros so i can vouch that he can make that much money however i cant vouch for jinsilver or @Soviet way of income maybe their members lent them money? maybe its RMT ? maybe i’m completly wrong and we saw nothing of the like? i move 50M every 9 days on the market with my necros do i RMT? it’s all speculation ? maybe i told you what you wanted to hear lunar because you’re incredibly stupid and guillable @LunarRabbit to believe EVERYTHING i say.
Stop hiding behind private conversations that may or may not be edited by yourself in order to associate people from other guild taking the blame for your guild crimson CRASHING US.
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Cyclone 100, Redel 90, Pouncing 88… Rank 8 Attribute 50.
Anything there that worth adding here? I can screenshot all conversation as well, like I said, we have nothing to hide. We didn’t crash, have no reason and will never crash one GvG match, unlike Aipha guys.
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Yeah add when i called your guild hook64 users or user.
RabbitHook64.