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Cheaters accusing other cheaters of cheating?
What has this game come to?

I’m sorry, I’ve lost count of who’s legit and who’s a cheater.
I’m assuming that every guild in GvG is a cheat just to get TP because I think I’ll be at least 80% right…

/hue?

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yeah yeah they didn’t ban or rollback months of GvG crashing and win trading why would they care about yours

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At least Crimson doesn’t have feeder guilds (✿ =‿‿=)
Crimson is legit darling, you’re forgetting how reliable this game is. :kissing_closed_eyes:

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Alpha oh the hypocrisy

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  1. Crimson vs Orsha: 7+ players crashes, we’re losing.
  2. Alpha itself or someone crashes the match to frame Crimson.
  3. We get back into game, there’s a random Lv 1 player from another server (cleary an alt) using /memberinfo on all of us.
  4. Right after that we get private messages directly from Kazuto/Alpha who also recognizes that all points makes sense:
  5. Kaenmaru/Alpha also messages me about this but also recognizes that someone might crash them for whatever reason:
  6. Again, we have no reason to do so. We have the match recorded too ^^
  7. And here’s one of our tickets about what happened requesting the crashes problems to be solved as well detailed information of the match and exact time when the crash happened:

Again, we have nothing to hide.

I also agree, these crashes need to be addressed by IMC asap, as well the whole situation of feeder guilds and match-fixing so that never happens again and the weekly rank not resetting issue.

Any questions?

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I threw one in after the fact for investigation just due to the sheer fact that this game is glitchy. But I’m fairly jaded on the subject and don’t buy it.

That was a helluva comeback and just seconds before winning we magically disconnect.

We, too, had people disconnect during the match. But the sheer convenience of that coincidence is damn near damning to me. While I’m sure IMC will brush it off, there’s nothing that can be done at the moment until they decide to respond accordingly. And we both know how that goes, fam. @LunarRabbit

And to everyone else talking about the feeding guilds –

And actually, I’ll gladly address the accusations of feeder guilds. Hell, I won’t deny these accusations as I truly don’t know what happened during those times. I can speculate. I seem to do that plenty.

I wasn’t part of Alpha during the time but I’m under the impression that this was done to combat other guilds that decided to do this. Guilds we can name all-day every day. While it’s not fair to fight fire with fire because of “unfair”-ness, I’m quite positive that the entirety of their decision to do this – if they did this – was done in order to do just that. Get back at guilds that were feeding themselves with other guilds purposely.

with that said…

I’m under the presumption that IMC cannot afford to ban out valuable players that contribute funding towards the game because of the sheer size of active players. But were this to happen in another game, I’m sure most, if not all the people involved would have been banned for it.

I don’t buy today nor tomorrow that they cannot monitor those channel crashes nor users of hook64 and whatever else you can imagine that affects the game. I feel as if they more or less ignore them. Perhaps I’m wrong. They’re a small development company, no? Well, whatever the case may be, there’s plenty of players who have reputations for cheating. That’s nothing new. And yet nothing is done about them. Which goes back to my statement that started the entirety of this hamster on a wheel ■■■■.

As for myself. I only recently became aware of the stigma. In fact, in PvP from some dude in Kleipedia from Diamond, but that’s fine. I’ve never had a GvG in which the leader of my guild has asked another guild to feed us or any of the sorts. It’s been a bit over a month now I believe.

Just like I’m sure there’s legitimate players within Inertia, but the stigma from Calindrea and SovietHammer and whomever else continues to persist. With or without evidence (and the evidence on Soviet is damning) I just don’t bother letting it affect me at this point.

That’s my take on it all.

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Cheaters fighting over TP
It’s not about the rank.
It’s about the FREETIPI

And by cheaters, I’d like to include their members that use bots, are bots, run bot armies, take up all of Dina Bee’s main real estate, also take up all of Demon Prison’s real estate and wherever else silver is to be made.

Whether or not the GvG battle is legit or not, the legitness of each player should be questioned as well.

/hue. no one is safe except…Whallet Warriors of Dual Wielding Credit Cards [Resolved]

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I spoke to @Soviet and i was wrong he has no reason to crash us or bother us he has no intention or will to do so, i was wrong to mention him on this matter but i wasent wrong to say you guys crashed us.
@LunarRabbit if you’re gonna show our conversations show all of it you prick.

Crimson don’t be so salty.

“I’m kaenmaru”

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Yeah I’m sure IMC will get around to it when they’re done with investigating months of you win-trading with your own feeder guilds, you literal ■■■■■■■ twat.

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I wasn’t in Alpha during any of the win-trading, if this even occurred.

How are you certain it was for months in the first place?

I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Please, enlighten me.

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to all alpha members i say

i bet its so lonely at orsha you got bored bud?

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Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.

You are welcome to browse the other threads, I apologize that you joined them unawares. They created 1 (2?) other guilds with the sole purpose of trading wins in GVG in order to get free TP. There were a few other guilds doing it (primarily on Klaipeda) up until about 2 weeks ago, when IMC actually started paying attention.

They would coordinate matches and if their queue popped and it was not their feeder guild, they would have the GM disconnect, rejecting the match. There were days where other guilds could literally not get matches because they would get rejected all night.

edit: The best part is that Orsha’s weekly GVG rankings conveniently reset every week, so they got a fresh start to basically get top 3-5 every week by this match-fixing process.

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You do realize that GvG rankings is supposed to reset for everyone weekly… Klaipeda guilds are the ones that are bugged and not resetting, so guilds like Crimson and Lotus maintain their 1100+ points and keep accumulating, while Orsha guilds are forced to start from 1000. Even Lunar knows this, he says it in one of his screenshots. So the “convenience” you’re talking about isn’t for Orsha, but for Klaipeda.

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Guys why tf are you so mad, so many of your guild members already have trans Orange 315 weapons pls calm yo tiddios kiddios

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Obvious Cheating guild with alt to steal wins on trying to frame another guild that is legit and whoops you guys every single time good try guys but no one is buying your crap. You guys just mad you cant use your alt guild anymore but good try -_-

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