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#21

The dead of valor is consider to be Op because of stack damage. Its very good if u want more dps.

#22

Hey nice post :smiley: . I want to be an off tank but since the removal of centurion i had to rethink about my classes Swordsman->Peltastax2->Hoplitex2->Centurion.

So i decided to go for a squire.

Is this build viable as an off tank? And huh iā€™m always lost about stats wich one should i put point in?

And what do you think of this build if you compare it with your relentless halberdier is it able to tank as good or not?

#23

Hey, first of all just keep in mind your ability to tank largely depends on your stats, not your skill build. But even then youā€™ve picked really good classes for a tank!

Onto your build, If you wanted to invest more into Guardian you can. I only put 1 point into it because I wanted to take advantage of the increased evasion without compromising my damage too much in PvP.

Iā€™m not sure exactly how much you want to tank and how much you want to DPS, so if you want more tankiness, invest heavily in CON. If you want damage, get DEX for crit rate. Itā€™ll also make you more defensive by increasing your evasion! Iā€™m putting around 125 - 150 in CON (rest in DEX) so if you have more than that, youā€™ll be able to tank better than me :smiley:

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#24

+1, good initiative. :mushroom:

#25

Iā€™m trying to be as tanky as i need to be and be able to dps, i will be supported most of the time by an off healer
clericx2 ->Krievisx2->druid, So he can dps what i canā€™t as an off tank and he can heal me what i canā€™t tank as an off tank.

Thank for the help :3 .

#26

Hey Cecil, Iā€™m making a Dopplesoldner build but Iā€™m unsure of what route to take between Highlander c2 or Barb c3.

How does a Skyliner/Crosscut combo compare to a maxed out seism, cleave and frenzy?
Barb c3 build: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/al5r7nifjl/
Highlander c2 build: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/lio3kjchyt/

Also what would stat allocation look like for this build?
Ty :relaxed:

#27

Hey Cecil, may I ask what stats allocation do you suggest for your fencer build?

#28

What do u guys think of this build? Swordie - Highlander - Barbarian x3 - Doppel

#29

Swordsman->C3 Highlander-> c2 corsair? or
C2 Swordsman->C2 Highlander->C2 corsair?

I mainly want DPS. Help me decide please!

#30

Is this a viable build for dps build?

#31

cecil!

I am interested in the fencer build you posted but i am unsure about the stat allocation! please advise!

Thank you!

edit: Or does anyone here know anything about stat allocation? I just dumped a bit into str and dexā€¦ did i screw up already?

#32

STR and DEX is all good, dont worry. :smile:

#33

Iā€™m level 20 now with 15 str, 14 con, 16 dex with 5 remaining stat point to allocate.

May I know what is the stat allocation for every level? example 1 str 1 dex or 1 str 2 dex or something.

Currently thinking of remaking my character because peltesta seems to be very underwhelming. I keep getting wrecked by the boss in crystal mines even though i am much higher level than he is. Any pointers?

edit: main concern is that my damage is too lowā€¦ iā€™m dealing 39-40+ with gung ho buff onā€¦ please help. Cecil i hope you see this soon! :< @Cecil

#34

Hi Cecil, for your ultimate duelist how do you add the status? why did you go peltasta when youā€™re going fencer? what is the reason for not going highlander?

#36

Thanks for the fencer build. I really am just diving in this game blindly, but hey, itā€™s all good.
Anyway, whatā€™s the stats allocation for the fencer build?

#37

Hey guys, sorry Iā€™ve been away for a bit, had some commitments and have been nolifing this Beta. In short Iā€™ve learned a lot, a fair amount of my theorycrafting has been thrown out of the window. Also, this game is awesome.

So I feel a whole lot less knowledgable right now XD. Actually I feel rather unfit to try and give answers to all your questions, so instead Iā€™ll just post about the stuff I know.

First of all there is a massive divide between PvE and PvP builds. So I canā€™t really give good advice unless you say exactly which one you want (both means youā€™ll do neither as well). In terms of stat builds, CON seems to be the absolute greatest stat for PvP, and DEX for PvE. STR is pretty useless. I tried a full CON Swordsmanā€¦ it couldnā€™t kill anything, probably because I wasnā€™t up to the point where I had uber-powerful skills to use.

DEX Gives crazy amounts of avoid, I have a full DEX char and for the most part I can just stand on bosses dodging everything. Seems like full DEX is the best choice for DPS Swordsmen. But since Hoplites get a lot of it, in PvE its inefficient to have so much crit rate and so they are forced to stat STR which is bad. Which brings me to the next pointā€¦

Barbarian >>> Hoplite

Barbs have so many powerful attack skills which they can spam compared to Hoplites. For example, Stabbing has a 40s cooldown and Pierce has a 32s cooldown. Barbs get Cleave and Helm chopper (both with 2 uses) and around a 20s cooldown. So Hoplites can use 2 skills every 40 seconds compared to Barbarians which get 8. Stabbing is an incredible skill, basically making Pierce redundant. Spear lunge is really good!

I think on release Iā€™ll end up rolling something like a full DEX PvE Swordsman > Peltasta > Barbarian > Cataphract > Cataphract C2 > Doppelsoldner. Catas seems really fun, 2H Spears seem to be the best weapons in the game and I am really curious how skills interact with riding. Iā€™ll make a build for this soon!

Iā€™m going to change both of my builds slightly to reflect what Iā€™ve learned about the game and will hopefully reach C6 soon to comment on Doppelsoldner skills.

About the Fencer build:
From what I know now, the stat allocation will be full DEX for PvE and full CON for PvP. Originally I had thought taking Peltasta 2nd was a good option all the time, since you could equip a shield for PvP and take it off (gaining extra damage) for PvE. But with the stat builds now so different, Iā€™ll probably make a build for PvE and one for PvP. Just remember, CON for PvP, DEX for PvE!

TLDR: Sorry about any bad advice I gave, go full DEX, Barbs are OP.

#38

i would like to ask if this build is alright? and what about stats allocation?. im more of PVE type of player thanks in advance

#39

Hey thatā€™s a pretty nice Build, I would definitely go full DEX on that.

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#40

So you go full dex? Ive been doing full str xD

#41

Also, right now Iā€™m Sword-Sword2-Barb, what build should I go to make max damage? (PVE)