My build is going to be:
Sw1 > Pelt1 > Hoplite3 > ??? > Dragoon
I was wondering whether to take Doppel or Cata for one of my ranks.
Cata because of trot, earthwave (for some AOE) and most importantly being able to attack while on mount. (More pvp oriented)
Doppel mainly because of DoV (sure cyclone is nice but with later ranks, flat damage falls off, whereas the utility from Cata doesnt)
Thoughts?
Definitely dopel. It’s gonna make your build perfect. Rumored future meta top dps when dragoon2 comes.
Dragoon1s of that build are already doing well in the DPS department.
Doppel just for the DoV? Because as you said, Dragoon does enough damage by itself, an extra cyclone is going to amount to much.
i need answers too
will dopel skills be needed like cyclone or deed of valor when u are dragoon 2?
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And DPE
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It only makes long stride unusable.
Alright, if I can get more confirmations that the mobility from cata is not worth going over doppel, that would be great
You generally go c3 cata or no cata at all. c1 cata is bad in comparison of dopp 1 because of the rank difference (rank 4 vs a rank 6)
I meant Dop1 (R6) Goon1 (R7).
Cata1 won’t suffice for PVP. Low trot movespeed and uptime. Lackluster E.wave damage. Impale is probably the only pro for going Cata1 but it’s a very situational skill and in group PvP if you want to play fetch, you’ll need high mobility which only lv.10-15 trot can provide (or if there’s a chrono in the team/party).
If going Dopel1 for R6 meant I’d only get the skill DoV, I’d still do it. DoV even at lv.5 is the best skill you can get from an R6 filler in your build. Pop a lapasape and instant +50% DPS output for 30-ish seconds which you can do again after ~10s (that’s 75% uptime). All other skills are just bonuses (though as @razm2888 said, Cyclone’s pretty strong too, great filler).
Off-topic, Corsair is a viable alternative to Dop1 too if you’re PVP-focused.
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Shhhhhhhh, some lessons in life are learned the hard way. 
Yeah, I understand that PVE is Hoplite and Cata for pvp.
Thanks for the help guys, guess I’ll go doppel