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💔 Most of new players will probably immediately quit as soon as they reach Tenet Church B1

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#42

They should just aggressively tackle the bots… the game has an average playerbase of 5k right now + bots (some get counted within those 5k, others do not as they Bypass steam to run multiple on the same pc and are not tracked in the 5k)

Make weekly events where players receive extras when they Report bots
Make all players hunt them down and ban them straight away… they are easy to spot anyway… almost only tphacking archers with keyboardsmashed names
Like 1-2 tp each successfully banned bot

Also they should just buy a copy of the botsoftwares and study them if they don’t do this already…

To the glizardons and so on: most of the farmed Mobs appear in dungeons… let the Mobs in dungeons drop the loot aswell and increased ratio

#43

^ THIS. Either they already did but still can’t figure out how to counter them for some reason, or they just never cared enough.

#44

Awooo want to be adult in a game made for kids…

i should invite my grandpa to play TOS

wait, grandpa would die from disappointment/bugs/bot/reroll

TOS so hardcore only Awooooo and the likes would play

huehuehuehue

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#45

It just hit me, but can the 50dg Galoks drop that class up quest item? since they still count in the monster diary kills.
Has anyone tried?

#46

The reason it has grown to be a problem is very simple, because the problem shrunk to near nothing for a while when they cracked down on it.

It’s pretty clear that they had a time period where they were being very active at getting rid of them, and since then because there weren’t many to sustain the same level of moderation they have scaled back on manpower addressing the problem.

It is time to increase the manpower addressing the problem like previousy because with the advent of exploits they’re a problem again. Every bot in Miner’s and Tenet is using hook64. They’re all swordsman bots doing large aoe hits with every auto attack like BlueDragon or whatever that guy’s name was.

The point about people acting like children is simply that acting like rude little children doesn’t achieve anything. It just bothers people.

As for copy paste support responses, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. I don’t know what more people want from a bot report. Seriously, tell me what you’re looking for? Do you want them to find a unique and deeply personal way to say thank you for the report and that they will look into it for every single bot report? What more could possibly be expected? What a giant waste of time and resources that would be when a copy paste achieves exactly the same result.

Possibly. The dungeon would be about 10 levels above you though, you reach the first Linker advancement around level 40-42. Most people could card it, but it’s not something newbies could know about :confused:

#47

everyone know whats the reason

what we dont know is, WTF IMC gonna do to fix this mess ?

tenet was infested with bot since the game launch

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#48

Naw. There have definitely been periods of time where the bot situation vastly improved. You can see that in the responses to people coming back to the game.

Right now I agree that the situation has deteriorated again though. At least for a number of maps below level 50, a few unusual higher level maps like Vilnis Forest, and Dina Bee bots have been out of control for a month or so now.

I reported a bot called Valet with videos multiple times in a different thread. I gave up in the end. I see that user playing pvp all the time still, unfortunately.

Whatever procedure they currently have is probably mislabelling a lot of botters as normal users. Or IMC are simply not able to police bots at certain times of day so when they come to investigate these users they are using their accounts legitimately instead of in bot-mode.

#49

good, so why change something not broken?

they reduced the channel down to 3, no?
changed galok spawn time/quantity, no?

i think my swordman3 class change require to kill Galok as well.

anyway, the issue is not which forumer reply is more adult-like, who is acting like kids

we havent heard a word from IMC ever since they reduced the channel!

tag your favourite GM please coz im blacklisted, GM dont listen to troll anymore, huehuehue! (totally worth it~)

atleast(gm please) acknowledge the situation, no?

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#50

Resources probably. After the situation improved the people assigned to anti-bot duty were probably sitting around not doing very much, so they got moved to other things.

#51

do we care their reasons?

we just want resolution!

is this no longer business?
are we not customer?

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#52

I don’t know if I can entirely agree that customers of videogames have an entitlement towards changing any of the mechanics of the game, or demanding resources be spent on any particular task when they have no insight to the scale or resources involved.

You have an entitlement to what you purchased.

What did you purchase?

#53

TOSkore

huehuehue

(sorry, i just have to insert that joke there)

welp, on galok case, its a valid concern, no?
voicing on valid issue, no matter how repetitive, is still a valid feedback, no?

if IMC need 1year to address to this matter, we will keep giving feedback until its fixed, no?

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#54

I’m starting to think IMC isn’t finding any problem with revenue (even if the reduction of channels might say otherwise), so much that it isn’t even necessary to take care of this bot issue.

The purchase of TP might still be increasing as they see on their end that they probably don’t see how investing resources in combating bots is even worth it.

Some people are still buying stuff from the TP shop anyways no matter how bot-infested this game has become.

I’ve said this in another thread before and I’ll say it again:

They have product A (TP shop stuff e.g. costumes, mounts, etc.) that are raking them in profit in a short amount of time. They also have product B (existing content, new content e.g. maps, quests, etc.) which required more resources to make than product A but they notice that their revenue didn’t significantly improve with this product.

At some point, product B breaks (bot outbreak, rampant hacks and exploits). Considering that even if it gets fixed it won’t still give good ROI compared to making product A better or making another product similar to product A - which do you think would be worth for them to invest in more?

- Tree of costumes and mounts

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#55

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#56

Right now Telsiai Tenet Church B1 channel 1 42 “players”, channel 2 27, channel 3 25. Even Fedimian has only half of this number…apparently IMC doesn’t care

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#57

Gahhh, I really hope they make a superior lv 270+ bracelets so pple stop looking for battle bracelets -.-
I am befuddled as to why there arent any better dps replacement for lv 170 equips. Like really??

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#58

Botters move from map to map, according to the market needs.

#59

This. The lack of gear (ridiculous gaps between gear lvl requirement) is what I don’t like of this game, there is little to no variation in builds, which makes the farming of an item or material, a living hell for legit players and an easy money making heaven for botters.

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#60

There is Phada, but it’s even more insane than Galoks to farm…

#61

Hate to say this, but this is full release, not a close beta test. =/

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