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Bring back Grim Reapers please

I don’t think you understand my point at all. I am fully against any kind of automatic silver farming. It creates a big gab between players who legitimately farm their earnings and those who want to exploit automation.

Grim Reapers will not spawn in those maps unless a Necromancer decides to go AFK farm there. Pure and simple. Blame the Necromancer. Be happy you aren’t banned because on jTOS admins actually ban AFK NecroFarmers.

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THIS. My point exactly. We live in an imperfect world and the real, underlying issue here is class balance. Which is currently crap. But I can live with it. Just accept what it is: AFK farmers are a problem? Well you have other characters that, while not AFK, actually pose a bigger problem because they can milk almost an entire map to the exclusion of everyone else.

Bringing in reapers do not solve this. I have come to accept the fragile status quo existing in DP maps (before this whole grim reaper brouhaha). At least then, we all ended up with something in our pockets, even if it meant some did so much more than others (myself included). Now? Well now no one gets to go home with anything, other than cracked armors and accessories.

Think this through folks.

Read my post again. My point: solve the warlock Invocation problem first before you go barking at AFK farmers. My reason? Warlocks exclude everyone else from the loot! Sure AFK farming is a problem, but at least with that, others (like myself) still get to share with the loot. But with Warlocks, fat chance you even get to share a single drop.

Now the grim reaper solution is no solution than it adds up another problem. Because with grim reapers, almost no one can enter the map anymore (at least in DP)!

Warlock invocation is active farming.

If the person is using a Macro then he should be banned.

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The reapers will not bother you unless you poke it first. You can quest in DP.

Really? I was just farming with my pyro in DP2. The reapers didnt seem to give a sht about me Lol. About an hour and a half worth of farming. The reapers seem to stick at the edges of the room.

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lets see if i got this right.
make “active” farming illegal first then we can “talk” about AFK farming later?
right?

Just did a quick, 30 minute run across an empty DP map earlier, and would agree that grim reapers do indeed serve their purpose. My earlier misgivings were brought by the fact that I keep on getting caught as collateral damage when it attacks minions of AFK farmers. If this also gets rid of Warlocks abusing Invocation, then I’m completely sold to the idea.

And no @Anorexic_Cow, what I simply meant was in the previous status quo, the Warlocks were actually more of a problem than AFK farmers, primarily because they excluded everyone from the drops.

One other observation: I actually noticed that I yielded more gems in my runs when there were AFK farmers in DP than now. Make of it what you will.

no offense, but it seems to me that you only care about some left over.

and this


is the smaller problem.

I always find it funny when people pretend to excuse themselves by invoking that phrase “no offense but…”, and then goes on ahead to insult you anyway.:laughing: Btw, I dont see the relevance of the pic.

And what I mentioned is a mere factual observation: I took home more gems than I do now that the AFK farmers are no longer there. You can be self-righteous about it by saying that I’m only interested in “leftovers”, but as I said, you can make of it what you want, but I was just making a factual statement.

So are Grim Reapers being good at some servers at all? I just went to Dina Bee trying to get some exp and saw all necros there same as before on 3 of the 4 channels, the only one that wasn’t highly populated by Necros had a Grim Reaper killing us off. Even worse at Demon Prison as some warlock would still carefully farm anyway and the 4 grim reapers wouldn’t let us grind efficiently there. Oh and all the necros on the down part they just ignored and not spawned any Reapers.
Not a good approach at all, shoulda killed the silver of the mobs and let it be a grind spot at least, cuz this way it’s still the same at dina and pretty broken at demon prison.

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Yup would have been easier to just nerf silver to 1s. I think the Reapers are GM spawned, the necros just bring their mains with +10 transcendence gears and kill the reapers and they go back to making that money. I witnessed it myself on Dina.

So in the end the nubs will get punished more than the necros. Nice try IMC.

What about Tenet Church then? Do you wanna punish afkers but not also bots? Because Tenet Church was always “true home of robotmoneymakers”. And there is some necroafkers too.

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