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Being caught means?

how long u get? 30days?

Maybe you’re telling the truth but I think is hard to IMC just guess who was abusing and who wasn’t.

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7 days , its fine but seems like the point here is they havent banned those real exploiters.

This is the law:
https://treeofsavior.com/ts/

Especially:

And I would never be in your shoes becauses I don’t abuse obvious exploits. I have grown to old for this.

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too bad

but its not easy to determine who is who just from the long wall-of-text server log.

so…

huehuehue

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I already mentioned that I did not continue. And if you think I abuse would you see me posting this? Well if I really abused I should have stayed quiet and laugh “well I got xxxpractonium” better not to say any Im banned" and Im not posting this to make myself look innocent Im posting my frustrations. Understand?

And why would you understand you just want to prove me wrong. Then your Right.

Yeah, hue hue thats all we can do

Remember that if you abuse by accident/ignorance you still abuse. If this doesn’t get in your head then it’s time to grow up I guess.
Well said what has to be said. Enjoy your holiday. :slight_smile:

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Anyway m, Im also thinking whats the point of this. They already sanctioned everyone Im just frustrated.

Conveniently ignored the first part huh?

If players need to abuse the mystical cube’s timer reset to open the unstable cube at least once before the channel will crash and cube will disappear … isn’t there something wrong?

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Hey people I’m here. Always Two sides of the coin.

This is really complicated and we can say polemic.

On one side, his point of view is valid, even if people say that @lladocspark should know that this was a huge bug, any one on his place without information could have done the same, including me. I never used this Cube thing, but in his place, I probably have done the same, since I could just wanted to open it the first time, then see a crash, and there you go, the cube is there again? I probably could think:
"The last one have fail? I lost my item or not? " (specially if not much valueable)
"Was that one of that cases where conection failed but you still play, without any recognition of the server? "
“Maybe I should open it again?”"
And probably I would do it for the a 2nd time.
For the 3rd time, I probably was about to think much more about it. I would had check if the last item I adquired still there, and if it was, I was about to get very worried about Not open it again, because I would knew that something was wrong.
Why @lladocspark point is valid? Because he dont caused the crash, dont received any announcment on his screen about people exploiting this, and his game crashed. I agree that he had to be more careful about open it a 3rd time, but my point is: He have to be in control now of what is a bug or not?

On the other side

in general perspective, since every MMO put the rule: “Do not use any bug or exploiting in case you discover it on the game, or you will get banned” on the game contract agreement, is pretty easily to understand why the most part of people agree with your ban @lladocspark.

Of course, one game have more bugs than another. On first person shooter games, if you discover a hole in the wall that do not exists and use it, you will get banned. @lladocspark did not harmed others players, but stil could discovered a “hole” and used it to his own advantage.
Is that case where you get only get small fish (@lladocspark), while the big fish get impune (RMT, Pro exploiters, Bots), but this dont change the fact the small fish was wrong as well.

I think as in real life, @lladocspark should pay according to the crime hecommited, so permanent ban would be too much maybe, since it could be considered death sentence? I dont know, the laws on real life exist too, I find some unfair, but I can’t do anything, so you people decide his fate as well.


I think at least they could at least make a Announciment alerting people, so this would not happen again.
Sure, they dont have any obligation of do that, since it is already on the
contract agreement, but would be good to prevent the loss of players who buy TP. Something like this:

Atention:
This game if Completely FULL OF BUGS and People Trying to exploiting by making things that envolves all players community, and we have NO Control on this people, so please, anythiing not normal, just stop play and ask for help, or you will get banned!


As for @lladocspark you should not tell about Your history on the game, how much TP you bought or the analogy of the Small Fish, Big Fish, because this really make people think that you want to be released only because this, and not because you maybe innocent, understand?
Go more for the facts instead emotional.


@Goldie
Your analogy is completely out of place, since in this case, he was stealing any one, could not knew that other people was breaking the protective windows (dont know that other people was making his exploit) and dont even know that this was a exploit. At maximum a bug.
Again, no one, in any game have the obligation to know when something wrong is a bug, a exploit or not, specially without warning, without harming other players.

A more acurate and simple analogy would be: “Someone had thrown money just in front of my house, no warnings, but no one seeing either, should I take it or not?”


@Kascly Not defending what he did, but no one have the obligation to know that. I dont even know what is TBL Crash.

You admited yourself you could do it too if not your own history of deal with bugs in the game. Do not super-estimate what others players should know or not, somethings are to developters and GM, not for the players, as you more or less admited.

http://forum.treeofsavior.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/8/d878f2741d8ad53ade99e79403d95a6cecbe38e3.png

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Maybe you missed this post:

And about:

If you have an item which need to meet some conditions to be opened(24 hours) and for some reason you could bypass this conditions, will you open even knowing it is a uncommon event?

If this is not something “what others players should know”, well, better rethink your life.

You took too much time to post a wall of text and just forgot to take my point.

@kazamatenkai I appreciate the unbiased observation and comments about this. Now the question is why is this things happening? To what extent do you think this things can go? Does it really resolve the current problems?

so you were clearly exploiting, admits it, and complains?

maybe you didn’t boleto enough.

well, who cares. Be grateful that IMC threads lightly on their punishments.

7 days is fine …just take a rest for a while…GO OUTSIDE AND HAVE FUN!

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Yeah, very toxic here thanks

I think in ur case u shouldnt be banned if you opened it less than 4 times. Now did they perm ban or 7 day ban?

Cause i be honest if servers were crashing and i had cube and playing for little bit i would had forgotten if i opened it or not. In my 12 hour sessions and between characters.

In my case i dont have the cube yet on my account so i wouldnt know.

me toxic or others?

huehuehue~

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