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Alternative For The Founder Packs

haha good point. yeah… its depressing…

That’s if the game doesn’t die before that and no, alot of people won’t come back from that

@pseudo than don’t pay for it?

@niconico93 I think the packs need to include their worth in TP on top of that for “buying the game blindly” like i said before though.

Yeah the solution to everything is just “don’t pay for it!” There’s no reason to price it at $50 for one week. If I’m going to pay for 1/12th of the time, I’d expect it to be at 1/12th of the price. (3 mo. = 12 weeks.)

Tacking on exclusive items doesn’t suddenly improve the quality of a package. Only idiots would fall for such cheap filler, to be perfectly honest.

It seemed to work for every single game with founder packs. If you don’t want TP and items than good for you, you keep your $50 for Dark Souls 3 or some other game. 3 month head start would kill the game. No doubt about that.

I get the appeal in cosmetics but, please, can we not have wings popping up everywhere on this game? They wouldn’t fit at all.

Oh i just said that cause there seemed to have tiny wings on the head as cosmetic in the game. Anything else appealing works

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you seem very persistent in ignoring the underlying issue. It doesn’t have to be hard. $50 is retarded. 1/12th of $50 is barely over $4.

Otherwise I agree with your argument despite how many times other people have said it.

We don’t know this for absolute certainty. Part of the issue here; NO COMMUNICATION.

Koreans are also made at this game. Just an FYI.

They are potential customers. You failed economics didn’t you? You can’t ignore potential income. They might not pay right away; however if the enjoy the product enough they will pay. There is a reason there are “free samples” in every day marketing…

They would make absolute ■■■■ income from 5$ founder packs. Again, the $50 is mainly for the TP. The headstart and items are a bonus for supporting the game and helping it reach a higher point for official release.

Guild Wars and so many other games gave only a few days headstart for pre-pruchasing their game without giving any info of how fun it would be. The game was $60

Then don’t suggest such a low time frame. Duh. If people are going to buy the TP either way, just run a discount for TP during the first month or two of the game.

Free samples, not the whole product, but please try harder.

“You failed economics didn’t you?”

Cute mate :kissing_heart:

You realise this game is going to be competitive right? More than 1 week would turn away every single people who wants to play the game to be in the race to the top.

the competitive people will find a way to pay $5, and since it’s through steam they surely have something to sell in their inventory. I don’t see what the problem is with such a low price.

$50 for a week head start is ludicrous in a game that is free to play. It may sound like a great idea for all the cheap skates that aren’t going to pay anyways. For the other that are willing to pay it’s a rip off. All they need to do is have a new server for players that start in June. They will have the choice of joining either server. Saying it will kill the game is stupid.

The problem is the devs worked on this game for years. Just to get 5$ from a few people?

That’s the thing: You don’t pay for the headstart. You pay for the TP. The items and headstart are a bonus. Paying players will have the option to switch servers so there won’t be any servers with free to play only players.

what is TP
what is the item shop
what is the token system (basically a subscription)

you’re making this bigger than it really has to be

I don’t see how I make this bigger than it really has to be. You basicall say people who don’t pay right away cause they don’t trust IMC (They have many reasons not to) should be forced out of a OBT that was PROMISED to be soon. And again, this game will be competitive like any MMO. Being forced to play 3 months later is basically saying “You’re gonna be a scrub no matter how hard you try to keep up with those who got to play 3 months longer” and makes the whole packs P2W to some extent

EDIT: I’ve given my points so I’m done argueing. We don’t agree with this. It is what it is.

Yay for people nitpicking and failing to realize the main point. I love people like this.

The main point is; if people enjoy something they will pay for it. Use your brain for a moment here and see the point of the discussion. …If you can.

F2P makes the most amount of money out of any game business model on PC. This is a hard fact. Games like WoW, FFXIV and Eve Online are the exception. Why do you think there are so many F2P games these days? People suck these up like candy.

Thank you; I know I am.

People are more mad about the lack of communication than the pay wall. They’re also mad at the length, which is what I already agreed with you on. $50 for one week is always going to be retarded.