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All Simple Color Costumes - Free DLC Pack & Grateful Donnes Event

The Costumes aren’t free. They take an insane amount of time and effort. So it’s more like a part time job with costume as payment.

The work is heavy labor as well depending on your luck/level. My lvl 298 character gets garbage missions for items with 0.7% drop rate (literally) from enemies with tons of defense+hp+evasion which could take several hours to complete. I’m not even going to bother. Another terrible event.

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I’m wasteful of items i could use to grind for hours. :sob:

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  1. Make alts
  2. Power level it to 100
  3. Do the quest on them
  4. Pass over the badge via team storage
  5. ???

another event that forces players to buy more character slots :blush:

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But with just one (1) character, doing the event… you only really need 10 days.

You get 5 badges a day (consider you do them all), then repeat over 10 days to get 50 badges.

Surrender all 50 and you get a costume.


and

Are you guys high? You don’t need alts to complete the event at all.

Alts will speed things up for sure.

The event duration (21 days), even with just one (1) character, would be enough for you to get the costume.


Yes they are; monetarily at least.


Only if you want to get them within like 2 days. There’s enough time to get the event done with a single character over 10 days.

Since you missed the point of his post (and mine being a solution to his specific situation and not a universal recommendation to make alts)

Since the quests are based on your level, higher level characters would be forced to hunt those high level mobs with super low drop rates and/or inflated stats which makes the quest take much longer if you’re not also very geared.

So I suggested just making an alt and rush it to 100 to get those easy quests instead.

You need to complete the quest for the badge, so I’m not sure why ‘SURRENDER all 50’ would get a costume…

Surrender is another way of saying [hand over], as in “submit”.

Eg: Surrender any firearms to security before entering the premises. - This means you will just [hand over] your firearms (if you’re carrying any) to the security guard/personnel.


He can cancel his quest if he gets a crappy one. I know I have, numerous times. Like getting back to back kill Vilkas Fighter (0/2). This mob spawns one per channel (there’s only 2 channels), and has a long ass wait until it respawns.


He can literally just wait the next [reset] to try again on better quests. 105 quests with a single character, I’m sure he’ll find ones he can complete.

The event period lasts 21 days. He just wants to get that costume day 1 or 2 like most people.

Cries because he can’t, even when it’s completely possible to do the event and still get the costume just at a later time.


He was complaining so hard about the time and effort it’ll take to get the costume, you think making alts (for the explicit purpose of this event) is within his capability with that attitude of his?

I don’t understand why they try to promote their shitty daily quest xD
It’s not that bad when you just got level 100 but after 200 you just get half an exp card of inferior map level… that’s incredibly dumb when they ask usefull items…

Maybe in 2/3 years when testers will be past level 100 they can have a better view and scale things right :smile:

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It’s also with implication that you’re forced to, or that you’re giving up, you might not want to choose words that can be mistaken with its other meanings. Why not just use the word submit from the go? Just like the event post use it (less characters, no ambiguous meanings), or turn-in for more general game lingo.

Heck I have not heard anyone use ‘surrender’ for turning in/submitting something in positive meaning.

Except that also means he can’t do full 5 quest on that single character. You know the event offers more than just the costumes? That 100% exp for 2 hour is pretty nice you know.

Are the costumes tradeable? Does anyone know?

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Dude! You took me out of context and you also don’t understand the word I used.

For reference, here’s what I said in its entirety:

See that? They succeed each other and the final statement is obviously in the context of the one preceeding it.

You have no grounds for argument here, stop trying to build on something you:
A) Failed to understand and
B) Took out of context


You’re just nitpicking at this point. Remember, we’re talking about someone who doesn’t like/want putting in the time and effort for a reward (not you, but him).

He can still add up the badges from his alts (if he has one, we all start off with more than 1 character slot, chances are he has more than 1 character) and get the 5 needed for the EXP reward.


Stop trying to defend the lazy whiner and stop trying to defend your stance that “I didn’t use the word surrender properly”, because in context, I did.

If you want to get the costume, then yes, you are REQUIRED to give up 50 badges. Because that’s how the event f*cking works! It is MANDATORY! So yes, you want the costume? You are FORCED to complete the REQUIREMENTS for it.

I just used the darned word as a SYNONYM; for crying out loud. If that’s all your argument hinges on then WTF!?

I play games for fun, not boring labor.

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You certainly did not.

Here’s a definition of SURRENDER

[quote]Verb. cease resistance to an enemy or opponent and submit to their authority.

Noun. the action of surrendering.[/quote]

That ‘submit’ refers to this definition of submit

And NOT, as you seem to be confused with, this other meaning of submit

So frankly, here’s this right back at you.

Are you even in location where you speak English natively? Because I question what sort of country you live in where teacher can use “surrender your homework” instead of “submit your homework” and not raised an eyebrow.

I was born and raised in Canada. I guess that’s not enough for you.


Synonyms exist in the English language and your argument hinges on pure semantics, to which I’m not even at fault. I even gave you an example in the real world (common in banks)… FFS.

The usage of the word “surrender” in the context where it was used was neither inherently positive nor negative to be honest. Yet you’re trying to build on it as though I’m negatively portraying it.

You are required to surrender the 50 badges you’ve worked for in order to meet the requirements of the event should you want to obtain the costume.

It is mandatory (if you want the costume) and it is merely a statement of fact.

I cannot simplify this further for your feeble mind.

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The example you used also fell under the ‘submit to authority’ definition, the action of handing over the firearm was just the way to show your submission.

Synonyms also require that the words are actually use for the same meaning, not for the different meanings it can convey.

Here’s some other synonyms for surrender.
synonyms: give in/way, yield, back down, cave in, capitulate; surrender, knuckle under

So by your definition, if I say “back down 50 badges” I’d be correct because it’s a synonym to surrender.

Or the synonyms other (not surrender) definition of submit
synonyms: put forward, present, offer, proffer, tender, propose, suggest, float; put in, send in, register

“I propose 50 badges” would also be correct?

See how stupid that sound? That was you when I read your sentences and your defense of how you were correct all along by trying to be fancy with words instead of just using the simpler ‘submit’ or ‘turn-in’ that won’t be confused with other meanings.

It’s not the usage, it’s the WORD ITSELF that have negative meaning to it.

No really, ever heard your teacher say “surrender your homework” instead of “submit”? If not, that’s because that’s not how you use that word.

Much in the same way you don’t say “I surrendered $X” instead of “I paid $X”, or “I surrendered the file you gave me” instead of “I submitted the file you gave me”

Anyway, this is going way off topic and frankly I never disagree that alts aren’t necessary for the event, but that making alts is an option for anyone who don’t want to bother with high level version of the quest (which might not even be about completing the event asap, but maybe they don’t want to sacrifice those valuable high level materials?)

So go ahead and keep using ‘surrender’ instead of ‘submit’ all your life, I’m sure anyone giving you a weird look just doesn’t understand English.

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w00t! I made it! @Silute :smiley:

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w00t, really cute imo ;3

Jesus Christ… you went full [connect the dots] on that one single word… which you took out of context might I remind you.

Since we’re going granular AF, the entire sentence you constructed just oozes pure mastery of the English language. (sarcasm)


Also, your idea (or solution as you so eloquently put it) was shot down:


There was never anything to argue about in the first place.

You’ve lost on both fronts. Whether you’re capable of admitting that is none of my concern. Enjoy your delusional life. :slight_smile:

Banana Sephiroth @Varena

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Enough to never use ‘surrender’ the same way you did at least.

Yeah, which made me wonder why you just had to try to correct me with that whole ‘alts aren’t necessary’ bit as if my statement in context meant I’m telling him to make alts when I was obviously doing this meme:

Note the 5. ??? in my post.
Or was your ‘mastery of English language’ was so high up you missed the joke?

I’m a little confused, that’d imply that I could ‘win’ by him following my advice, which sounds like a weird stance to take on suggestions.
It’s just a suggestion, to quote myself earlier:

If you can only view things in win/lose…well, I suppose that’d explains why you don’t ‘submit’ without ‘surrender’.

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