caps at level 10, for weapons, that means 550% damage bonus. Referencing: Item Transcendance
My point in the post I was trying to make was that, in a competitive scene, nobody is going to appreciate fighting the guy with godly transceded weapon.
550% is just ridiculous!
even 5% per stage is to much.
In my opinion that is where the mistake is in the system,
With lower % on each stage it would be more a thing for hardcore game to get the last % dmg out of the char like the kvm weapons in Ro.
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I really like how you argue with me in other threads that this game doesn’t need to be completely revamped but yet when you look at this whole list of things that’s basically what they are doing.
Damage formula, stats, skills, transcendence, monsters, UI and interface. What is missing here that they aren’t planning to do other than art and level design? Monster and Boss AI?
You think housing is the solution? Really what a joke but that could at least provide people with something to do and more cash shop potential.
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hm… that’s why i’m focussing in armor.
275% extra armor to hold a 1hand stage 8+
But stage 10 2hands are a pain.
If all players get stage 10, pvp is going back to the era of skill was needed. Or broken classes, like always.
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They also planning to make transcendent equips tradable. This also to address the hard core effort to acquire onto each one of your chars. Basically transcend armors then transfer via storage. Im starting to wonder how much the cost of blessed shards will fall probably 10k each? Like talt.
You can also afford to transcend your pet equips. Hunters will have a field day.
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I believe what I described was:
“Readjusting” sounds like real-talk. I can get behind real-talk.
-> a joke
Hmm… trading blessed gems are fine, but the equip it self? No.
All you need is to make the trancendental item acc bind. No character bind.
That’s why we have the spell rods and hammers. Imc… know nothing.
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I think that transcendence tagged to items atk and def should go. There are numerous other ways to make items a priority like giving items unique abilities such as lowering CD, or increasing a certain aspect of a class.
If we play around the word transcend, we can actually attach it to other stuff such as skills other than items.
Alternative suggestion for Transcendance
Transcend a skill, augmenting its cooldown rate, for example each level lowers the skill’s cooldown by 1-10% based on level. With max lv10 makes it have 55% lesser cooldown rate (% rate to be adjusted for balancing).
This makes it extremely attractive to both hardcore and normal players, since with high transcendence means being able to spam more of the dps skills, resulting in more dps.
This also doesn’t widen the gap much between casuals and hardcore as skill damage isn’t magnified with the sheer gaps of transcend % in our weapons now.
Transcendence also changes to become something which is optional throughout the entire character’s career in ToS. A player can start transcending his/her skills the moment the character hits 240, and slowly building it up as new content and patches comes around. Unlike now everyone is saving up as much as they can for their BiS equipment.
Granted it will make the already popular Chronomancers more sought after with this, but having this also helps making non-chrono parties more efficient too, lowering the need of having meta team builds.
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When you got to “readjust” what you said like IMC does about their trade policy and game mechanics.
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Well, I’d certainly like this for skills like Meteor, or Summon Guild Member. But I’d keep it away from skills that make up the usual dps/support rotation. To reiterate, I’d like it for the occasional burst damage and utility than for sustain skills.
Thanks for your input, ophiuchu. You are a valued member of society and iToS.
Sigh whoever gave transcendence the greenlight you’ve got my eternal hate.
If they keep it like it is now, then we’ll keep our current issues, if they make it too easy to obtain then: why the hell did you add it in the first place?
There’s nothing good coming from this system, it breaks the game, it forces players already invested in it to feel defensive. mah precious!
It makes the devs indecisive as how to tackle the issue they’ve created.and worse of all it doesn’t fix the main issue of damage scaling.
How are they supposed to fix damage scaling from its root? if they make skills without transcendence to be as effective as they are with transcendence now. what happens then to them when there’s a transcendence into the mix?
This system sucks, working around it. praising it. keeping it, everything is a problem. somebody bring me buckets with solutions I wanna drown in 'em.
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It really depends on how much the player is willing to transcend per skill then. If the rate is kept the same, just to get to level 5 transcend heal (-15% cooldown) will still take 4xx blessed shards.
Players will have to think of what to invest on. It also promotes some form of customisation too. 2 pyros might have totally different way of dpsing, one may like to spam fireballs every 7secs, the other might want to to have a 40+sec cooldown fire pillar.
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I’m just worried that skills that can already be casted often will upset the balance further.
A lot of things should simply just not have huge cool downs and higher SP costs to balance it out. This was something people used to complain about back in early beta times and if they really wanted to make SPR a functional stat this is their chance to make it vanilla for mana regen.
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Same here, all these are subject to balancing and changes. But personally I do prefer this idea over the current implementation though. It is easier to balance too with tweaking of skill base cooldowns or the amount of SP needed to use that skill to balance it up. Since SP is one of the limiters to skill spamming now it makes it the perfect medium to stop this from being too OP.
Rather than having exponential damage + have to increase the monster damage/hp just to match every time they release new weapons.
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“The Ancient”. You can put inscription on it or runes that will reveal when completed the real name of the ancient weapon used in the war vs demon by the ancient heroes in TOS.
Example: Ancient sword to Illiza if socketed with runes.
You can convert lvl 10 transcendent weapon or weapon to ancient weapons to get ahead against filthy casuals(conversion time limited to 1 week after release). talts are use to craft runes. 10 talts = 1 runic talt.
By normal gameplay, Ancient weapons can only be acquired as drop by the boss on Astral Tower 10flr.
Ancient weapon stats scales with your level. Cant be transcended, Cant be repaired by squire/NPC. Talts are use to replenish the durability. Power is 3/4 of current lvl 10 transcendent weapons. However special skills are unlocked with it.
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I guess that’s fine too, although SP potions would have to be (and I think they should be) nerfed so increased sp cost actually means something. Or we’re talking about making Meteor cost 50% of total SP. (nevermind that meteor sucks in R8 content, stats and damage balances are coming).
I know SP pots have that 15-30 second cooldown, but what comes to mind is RO’s meta to spam the ■■■■ out of SP pots, no matter what build.
Skill cd reduce is a cool thing i guess.
But i would like it more on monster gems.
The could give some changes to the skill like less cd/more dmg/longer uptime ect.
In my opinnion trans just need lower numbers then its okay,
Like 2% per trans stage 20% more weapon atk on lvl 10 isn gamebreaking.
But enough to get advantage against other players in pvp/wb.
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I always thought Transcendence was a lazy preparation for new content. It’s like they didn’t want to be bothered with adjusting a lot of things and instead went for that one-change wonder. Agny is another example.
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