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2v2 TBL - 1st Week Experience - Leaver, BMing and condescending against swordsman in general

I’ve finally had enough with all the bullshyt going on in TBL. First of all, I want to clarify that I’m not here to flame anyone but to share my experience and general thoughts in TBL.

This is my 1st week joining TBL 2v2 with my lv203 rank6 sw3cata3 swordsman. I’ve total of 4 days participation with around 40+ match. Currently, I’ve accumulated 22 total win and achieved highest rank of 21st.

As of today I’ve dropped to rank 146th after a series of trainwreck matchup (straight up losing when teamed up with a 10k hp sw3cata3 and a 10k hp sadhu) and some close matches that end up losing (damn fun though).

The TBL matchup is pure luck based. Sometimes you’ll have favorable matchup and sometimes you don’t (most likely end up losing but not always). This is the fact we’ve to deal with and everyone should know it.

What disgust me is the unsportsmanlike conduct of some players that throw the match (leave game or AFK wait lose) when they ‘think’ its unfavorable for them and BMing before they leave. (a catagoon also faced the same shyt as me in the same TBL session today).

I can’t say for everyone, but from my own experience these kinda situation had occurred at least one time per TBL session for me. So far, all of them had insulted me (eg: “why even join?”, “rank6 you joking?”, “carry you? lol”, “you will just drag the team down.”, etc…) right before the match even started, but luckily they didn’t just leave. (some match end up winning, some lose, I know its hard to believe right?)

To summerize up, I feel like most people saw “You’re gonna lose! lol” when they matchup with a swordsman in 2v2 TBL. Which is especially true if you’ve matchup with an inexperienced swordsman or not PVP oriented build. (other classes have same issues too, hard to believe right?)

In my opinion, swordsman generally perform really bad in PVP scenario is due to the lack of viable build/skill that can actually work/contribute something in PVP.

Currently, the proven/tested build that actually worked and have chances in PVP such as sw3cata3 required high skill floor or experience to control and make it viable.

However, the lack of diverse PVP build (or in some cases the synergy with other classes) in swordsman tree had make it too one-diamensional and predictable. Thus, making even viable PVP oriented build harder to play against other classes.

As of now, other classes can perform better simply because no matter what their build are, they’re most likely end up having at least something that can actually work/contribute more than swordsman in PVP scenario. All in all, the diversity of PVP build and low skill floor of some build also make them more viable in PVP even if its not PVP oriented.

In conclusion, if everyone started to think they might lose when matchup with a swordsman and throw their game too… You know what would happen…

play 5v5 more.

there are far more useless classes there that people don’t bother complaining anymore. If swordman get paired up with OP class, they can actually contribute (lol) Although those OP class can probably win games with swordie afk.

besides, the event reward is only for 5v5.

Go 5v5. 2v2 are for wiz, clerics and one-skill wonders like Fletchers. XD

I’ve seen a match where a Corsair-Dragoon faired really well against a wiz and cleric class though. Iron Hook is really good if you land it well, catch both, and you’re near them so you can deal damage as well. Can even 1v2.

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i almsot always win with my cataphract and fletcher.

Yep, I’m going for 5v5 now. I’m doing 2v2 mainly because it end faster and sw3cata3 build have highest win rate against archers and they’re everywhere in 2v2. (archers have highest win rate in 2v2 against all other classes, espcially fletcher with OP bleeding.)

Another victim apparently had filed a report.

Well, swordsman is my fav match in 2v2 TBL as im Dievdoctor. It’s easier to keep them alive, bash is nice for knockdown (then i can put my own ground spells for fast kill) etc.

Better than archers who always want to kill fast - go first, die first.

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