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1 YEAR TOKEN SUPPLY ACHIEVEMENT (Completed)

Someone should sub that, haha.

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Lol I was just about to say that you would be between casual and hardcore. 40 hrs a week on gaming isnā€™t hardcore but itā€™s not casual. Iā€™ll be in the same boat as you.

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Hey dude, come to think, the achievement is not completed yet.
You acquired 12 Tokens, which totalizes 360 days of token, but a year have an average of 366~367 days, meaning that you still have a token to go.

no it actually doesnā€™t ā€“ each of your characters has an individual Adventure Journal ranking.

and bots tend to pad out only the very low-end of the journal.

it isnā€™t cool. itā€™s just ā€œgamerā€. sorry. :stuck_out_tongue:
tho i think some of the definitions of ā€œwhat is casualā€ and ā€œwhat is hardcoreā€ here are getting pretty silly and extreme-ended.

10h a day? thatā€™s like 2 full time jobs invested in gaming. (70h/week.)
1-2h a week? hell even facebook ā€œgamersā€ spend more time playing than that.
(when i say ā€œfacebook gamerā€, please understand that i mean all types of app-based mini-games; Popcap, Zynga, etc.)

plus, a purely time-based definition ignores any other considerations, like the types of games, or the financial investment in them.
eg; someone that only plays facebook gamesā€¦ but spends over $500/month in the cash shop, and several hours every day is still pretty hardcore involved in whatever game they are playing.

ehm, what planet are you on? we have 365.25 day years here. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Which is my point. Each existing character gains a spot on the rankings. The more characters, the lower the 10% limit becomes. This is especially true if many of these character entries on the rankings have a low point total to begin with. (like bots, or low level alts)

Itā€™s the top 10% of total characters (on the server), after all.

oh, i guess i misread your meaning, thinking that you meant all your characters shared a rating.

Easy

Could get around 3 times as many if I spent all the silver I ever got on tokens lol

A cascore gamerā€¦ YEA !

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Cascore. itā€™s like nightcore for games

exactly the same game, but 30% faster.
ā€¦actually, that would probably sell great.

12 tokens and 0 sex time??? nah, i will pass.

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How do some people think 3-4 hours a day is hardcore? Thatā€™s manageable with a full time job and some degree of social maintenance.

Full time job is 8 hours a day, youā€™re back home 6 pm. Do some chores, prepare dinner and eat and chill till 9 pm and hola you have 3-4 hours until midnight (6-7 hours sleep).

Some people just suck at time management :smiley:

Thats not even an achievementā€¦ thats more of an investment.

ok 3-4h a dayā€¦ 7 days a weekā€¦ thatā€™s 21~28h a week. a solid part-time job, or a light full-time job.

OP said ā€œ3-5h for 5dā€¦ up to 10h for 2d.ā€ so thatā€™s 35-45 hours a week. thatā€™s a full-time job plus overtime.

idk manā€¦ either of those sound like pretty solid time investments. what does it take for you to call it hardcore? do they have to play so much they get canned from their job or something?

The term is ā€œmid-coreā€. Certainly canā€™t call 40hrs/week casual.

[quote=ā€œtzxazrael, post:54, topic:238343, full:trueā€]
idk manā€¦ either of those sound like pretty solid time investments. what does it take for you to call it hardcore? do they have to play so much they get canned from their job or something?
[/quote]9-5 job
go home @ 5, give 1h travel time
eat instant ramen
play 6-2am
weekend play all day

that would be what I call working and hardcore
and I do know some people like that

I think OP just wanted to prove that it is easily possible to maintain tokens while remaining casual. OP being at most mid-core, casual players can definitely grind one token a month and have plenty of time left to enjoy the game!

(If midcore can grind 1 year of token supply, a casual can definitely grind a token a month, a lot less work in more given time)

Welcome to general discussion, where most of the stuff here doesnā€™t stay on topic :slight_smile:

Not gonna lie, itā€™s pretty easy to break the average mark. I break it on each toon just reaching level 50.

@PrinceMark

Grats on your token collection. I hear people WTS Token all the time over shouts for cheap, even tried to trade for one once to start overstocking like you did which didnā€™t work. (Guess these can only be sold/bought through market.)

While all tokens I see on Klaipeda are half a million in market still, are these shouts to sell cheap tokens (mid 300kish) even real despite seeing them every day? Or are these people just wasting megaphones? Pretty sure the cap on undercutting tokens is over 400k on my server.

All this said, not sure Iā€™ll even buy tokens from market, maybe I would if I could sell them later and bank off supply / demand differences in F2P, but they become untradable so. Iā€™ll prolly just pay IMC the durations I intend to play the game.

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