It’s probably worth starting a thread about… Might do it when I get home. If someone less controversial doesn’t do it for me. It’s just a refinement of @Nekorin’s idea. Don’t think you even need to really BoP it either… But I like the idea of farming for it in some way.
Lead Developer is original lead developer of Ragnarok Online. In Ragnarok Online, vit was a stat that was a flat damage reduction instead of mitigation %. 1000 vit equals minus 1000 damage taken. Lmfao.
Orange weapons (315) series are actually mend for players to break through or equalize the situation.
The Balance/fixes are to make games more smooth…
I have no idea what they are doing but yea.
Solmiki weapon are actually the almost same as lolopanther series just revamp.
it will only fit certain classes as benefits like fencer etc. The rest of us can do without it.
Since it is just a alternative or a sweg dispensing weapon. That you clear the raid xxx times. you can be proud of it as it is indeed tough.
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Im not understanding here. I remember in RO the hard def was a number from 0 to 99 what literally means the percentaje of damage you reduce. The VIT in ro only increases your soft def.
EDIT: I just remember the soft def was a flat reduction, but men, this was just a side mechanic. The whole game was based on percentages. Your main font of def, i.e, the hard def was a percentage
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^ this. We want to know why too lol.
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ET… I wish they did it like Endless Tower in RO. This whole wait 5 minutes nonsense is stupid. Not many people have the time to go through every floor just to get to the floor they really want to do when each floor takes 5 minutes long. Doesn’t even matter if you get stronger or outlevel the floor, you still gotta sit there for 4-5 minutes. Dumbest design ever.
They have too much time leeway in it.
They should make stricter times so it fits the objective. Or if the objective is done within the time it is automatically completed.
Well all i can say they design without proper test out on a huge pool…
Also here i spend too much upgrading my rod to the point i am poor
Time for someone to Git Gud, or find a Inquisitor to baby sit him~
Naw brah, they went full/high dex, cuz they thought magic can crit.
Hue.
They should add block and and evade to magic while giving it crit. This should scaling to dex !
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Then they would have to lower the scaling and all the skills of magic ;p
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This guy…from what I remember of his now-deleted post…says his elememe friend made it through fantasy library by only using warlock2 skills. That’s not making it through fantasy library on his own weight, that’s being carried by the SR or whoever in the group. Warlock2 has 3 damage spells, one of which is a 2 min cooldown and terrible aoe, one of which is single target 30 hits for mediocre damage, and one of which is a ground spell that doesn’t even hit the mobs during the first dps check.
Now he’s saying elememe is doing 12k frost cloud on every mob in ET. With quick cast and 100% attribute (lol) it means his elememe friend has 3357 base dmg, or, perhaps spammed chapparition cards that I believe_last less than half the duration of the skill_ so yeah not entirely valid to say it’s always 12k, and, if chapps were used then why aren’t we comparing it to glass mole stacks?
Beyond that it’s terrible design to completely obsolete earlier rank dps choices. It’s one thing to make them less powerful, it’s another to completely throw them in the trash.
" If anything, if the R8 mage skills are too OP if the mdef of mobs is lowered […]"
Yeah I don’t think this guy actually has a grasp on what kind of base damage wizard skills have. Frost cloud is 643 on a 30s cooldown and is pretty much the only spell you see eles use, because the rest are almost worthless. Warlock2 is pole at 1864, theurge at 1984, mastema at 3279 1 HIT GROUND ONLY and about half that for subsequent hits (not scalable with chapparition)…all with hefty cooldowns. No other dmg skills really. Magic scales with quick cast 50% if they took wiz3. And attribute. And chapparition cards for 4s. That’s it.
Fletcher numbers are comparable to this. They may be single target but so is theurge while pole is tiny…and fletcher is totally spammable. Meanwhile hackapelle has 10k 2 overheat lol. Mergen gets massive aoes with numbers around 4k. Archers reduce enemy defense per arrow stack. And can crit, along with getting crit buff. If they got a necro or ff friend then decay adds another missile bonus. Glass moles. There are more patk modifiers but I think we get the point. Melee has it even better. Block or dodge actually being a factor in r8 PVE gameplay is some kind of joke. Or are we conflating pvp and pve?
Reading through this thread, it sounds like he’s either exaggerating his op elememe friend or has someone who is so far in the top percent that he’s lost touch with the reality of most players. It’s like looking at Oprah and saying yeah black women have it good except with a little inconvenience, it shouldn’t be there but they can get over it, whatever.
“Again, everyone of you ELEMEMEs are using plate set. You want it all right? You want to be top survival, top single target on bosses, top aoe on mobs. I mean what’s the point of having a tank or other DPS classes? Might as well give ELEMEMEs heals too.”
What the ■■■■ is this supposed to mean.
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How is plate superior than cloth or leather when each is meant to do different things?
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Where are the elememe complaints about top survival when no one is defending high con in these discussions?
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Where is this top single target strawman even coming from when the stated problem is doing 1 dmg to mobs and most elememes were never top single target dpsers except in servers with no other competition.
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When the classes are designed to be aoe dpsers, yeah, a player would expect that the class can do aoe damage and be better at it than other classes which were not.
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What’s the point of having a tank or other DPS classes? Are you stupid or just mad about elememes aoe role being the most suited for one particular set of end game content? Reminder that bosses exist and elememes are far from the best at them.
There’s only so much bias a person can have against a class and still maintain a semblance of being reasonable.
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Why don’t you look at the bonuses on cloth set compared to plate set and what it can do for MATK?
They are forcing you to use Cloth and not go full con so that you can’t abuse the ■■■■ out of being a high dps class and have the highest HP pool in the game. Choose one or the other. Don’t expect to have both. You cry about balance, but you’ve had it good for so long compared to everyone else.
Had a mighty lol.
Ok. Let’s look at cloth.
What’s the most attainable high end set for most players?
Virtov.
It provides 36 ice property attack and 25 pierce defense. No relevant attack bonuses on the pieces themselves.
Ok, let’s look at the top tier ETer cuz all elememes are made equal and can clearly do ET with 0 problems.
SP recovery 100, earth property attack 42, int 25. 48 matk bonus on boots and gloves.
How about new sets?
Newt has no bonuses.
Ok ok, fine, clearly elememes are still relevant enough to take down the new demon lords.
Hasta? Just a little int on the boots and that’s it.
Good luck with Solmiki.
Not sure why you think wizards have the highest dps and the highest hp pool or are even pushing for that when literally neither is true unless you’re only talking about pvp where there are larger problems than con or no con or armor type.
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is it because most wiz go full cons and still dominate pvp and pve before?..now they cry because they do 1 damage…30k hp wiz without much int dominate pvp killing archer and swordie like a flies without fear…they dont fear to not getting called for pve since most ppl shout ele ele ele…while archer and swordie having hard time to up cons because need consider DEX and STR…losing hp for little dps while still underdog compare to wiz in rank 7…well welcome full cons wiz to underdog level now
Exactly. That guy bckimilin thinks he’s slick and thinks Virtov is highest obtainable cloth. just wow.
Typical Elememe:
Rod + Shield
Plate Armor
Full Con
+10 or higher white superior corona rod
animus
archmage bangle x2
And wants to do high damage with an R6 AOE to R8 Elite mobs.
Yeah, I agree that the mdef of current mobs are too high, but seriously? Expect to use a shield, plate, go full con and use a white weapon from r7 content to destroy r8 content? On top of that, say that their Frost Cloud is capped at 6.5k damage while using above gears without Chapp cards. The meaning of “cap” means the highest you can do, not your average.
Talk about eleMEME.
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Idk. Ppl talking about PVE content and 1 damage skills in PVE, and you are talking about PVP.
Man, i dont care about PVP at all, it will be ok for me, if all warlocks deal 1 damage in PVP from all skills, bcs i dont care about pvp at all, i only want to kill some things in pve.
So you if want, i am okay if all elememe skills deal 1 damage in pvp - its ok for me, but reduce that stupid m.def in pve or increase p.def to equal amount as m.def and it will be fair.
Ang guys pls. Dont judge wizard class if you do not have your own R8 wizard. Again, pls do not judge wizards if you only heard about wizards and didnt play this class at R8 by yearself. It is so stupid to watch how dopplers and other swordieas talking about wiz damage.
If you want to be confident in this topic? pkls create your own ele-lock, level it up to R8, compleate Fantasy Labrary with him (hue)and THEN post somthing here.
Guys, if you never played ele-locks on R8 - you know nothing about them and about their problems. Even full int, cloth, ele-locks with insane gear currently much worse then mediocre geared dopple in Fantasy Labrary and in R8 in general.
I dont care about my lock any more, bcs i know its just a dead weight. But at least i can compare it with my other characters, i already have 3 of them on R8. And i can tell you: even my poor C3 corsair wich is the worst possible swordie build in R8 is far superioor then elememe without any single card equipend without weapon from 290 e.t.c.
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Lol Full INT are having the same problem retards
And most ele3s aren’t full CON at all. Those that didn’t roll for PVP at least. Most PvE ele3s are either full int or mostly int. Pretty obvious some idiots here never tried to play a magic DPS class in this game. Chap cards are good for burst DPS but it aren’t gonna save your @ss everytime.
Whatever all I know is the R8 update didn’t save the game at all. The population remains mostly the same.
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So are you using superior corona rod and aias/shield? Are you using Plate set for hp bonus? Are you full con? How much INT do you have invested?
If so, why do you expect to be able to damage an r8 elite mob using r6 skills?
If you think that is even remotely true then you’re not paying attention. More likely, you know it’s not true but are saying it just to make a (false) point.
Even full int or mostly int is having problems, so con or no con is a moot point.
Your arguments are so ridiculous, exaggerated, and willfully wrong for the sake of putting the blame on the player that I no longer feel that there’s a point to this conversation.
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