Right, because you can achieve 1700 matk by being full CON.
I have 30 CON only, please read.
Whatâs your stats?
/plstellme
You guys still donât understand!
Doesnât matter if youâre full str, dex, con, int, or whatever. All the people complaining about doing 1 damage is because they are complaining their rank6 or lower skills are doing 1 damage!
IMC made their game like this on purpose and it has always been like this! The lower rank dps skills becomes obsolete and are just fillers. Look at Frost Cloudâs base damage! It doesnât even go pass 700 matk at max level.
Do I agree with this kind of balance? No. But it is what it is. I canât use any of my Fletcher skills that are rank 6 or below to kill anything. Even Magic Arrow takes forever to kill a mob thatâs for r8 content!
The biggest problem is that the r8 mage classes donât have enough DPS skills.
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It sure is going to be fun to get my alche to c3 then
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Youâre goddamn right dude. 
IMC knows they â â â â â â up and they know thatâs terrible game design. You can see that becasue they added a neckalce that boosts fire damage by a ton, and there are lightning and ice versions in the game files.
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In my opinion, they made the mdef so high on the new r8 mobs cause the mage class was pretty much the only class that was able to go full con, gather as many mobs as they want thatâs same level as them and kill everything at once.
So now, the mages have to play like a Fletcher or a swordsman did in r7, kill a few mobs at a time. Mages are just too use to aoeing everything and not use to killing 1 mob at a time like the rest of us. They can definitely kill 1 mob at a time very fast with r8 skills.
I still donât agree with the 2300+ mdef on mobs though.
sighâŚ
Must⌠not⌠torture and murder personâs entire family⌠to rid the world of his bullshit.
Weâve got all these amazing classes! Please level through them and ignore them at current end-game content to use only the last class! HUR DUR HUR!
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Welcome to the club?
I mean⌠what did you think Archers and Swordies did before R8?
Even if they lower the current mobâs mdef, they canât make an r6 skill able to kill everything in 1 aoe. If anything, they should balance it so it takes at least 4-5 Frost Clouds or 2-3 Meteors to kill them.
How stupid OP would it be if Frost Cloud or Meteor can 1 shot the new r8 elite mobs with 300k+ hp?
Those are just band-aids, they probly know themselves theyâre neckdeep in â â â â and can no longer fix anything and thus just keeps adding stuff, the class balance issue still remains.
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No one said it was in one shot.
Youâre the one sayingâŚ:
I merely want to murder you for saying it.
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This is why you donât go 2:1 strength:dex as a wizard.
How about you read my entire post in the right context? I replied that guy with all my previous posts in this thread in mind. Iâm not going to retype everything to reply to him.
I said the current MDEF is imbalanced from the very beginning.
Which is the core of the problem, not Frost Cloud being weak at R8.
Making many skills of R7- irrelevant could create ugly situations. People who made builds consisting of classes that dont fall of at R8 as much as others and quicklvl memes that wasted ranks. Or better said, whose ranks got IMCâed. It somewhat smells like Job40 vs Job50 of the first classes in RO, but worse.
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And thatâs not the way to solve it. They shouldâve buffed INT, not add crazy amounts of MDEF to mobs so every DPS wizz is unviable.
Guess what? Mages fulfill the AoE DPS role in most games. Fletchers excelled at single target DPS. Every class can have its ups and downs.
Now, have you seen a Schwarzer Reiter 3? Tell me if thatâs not even better than what wizards could do during r7. Even Dethrone is really good for AoE DPS if you know how to pack the mobs.
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True statement, but Frost Cloud, a r6 aoe, does as much damage per tick as Magic Arrow, a single target skill. Frost Cloud canât be blocked or evaded while Magic Arrow can. Magic arrow lvl 10 is an r7 skill.
Thatâs not even the point. The point is, you canât buff INT because then their R8 skills will be OP. If anything, if the R8 mage skills are too OP if the mdef of mobs is lowered, than lower the freakin MDEF of mobs so that frost cloud can do decent but not 1 damage, but also lower the base matk of the r8 skills as well.
SR3 is a circle 3 class thatâs R8. Elememe was a circle 3 class thatâs R6 that was able to destroy r7 content with ease. Not even comparable.
Also, I notice that the biggest problem with this game is that most of the players are so use to soloing because of game design that when they try to make the game more team-oriented, all these solo players starts crying when they can no longer solo.
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A good MMO has mostly solo quests, with a few party quests that usually involve bosses or elites. Forcing the player to party without an alternative is a fatal design flaw that will kill the game. Oh well, it has already been broken and IMCâed so hard, that killing it wont really matter.
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Thatâs not true. MA has about 500 more base damage than FC. Iâve seen MA hit for 10-12k, FC hitting for 6.5k was kind of the top during r7. Why are you lying?
The only r8 wizard class with high damage is Warlock (FF kinda too) and Iâll tell you it sucks compared to Dragoon, SR, Fencer, Taoist. Even if INT was buffed, with current MDEF values, wizard DPS would still be sub-par compared to these classes.
So what? What you donât seem to understand is that a class shouldnât become obsolete as the game progresses, ok maybe their damaging spells shouldnât be as strong as later classes, but they should at least offer some form of utility (thatâs not that of a support). This isnât only a wizard problem, all trees have low rank classes like this. Why donât you complain about SR being too good at AoE DPS now? It clearly is the best at it by a huge difference.
Fields shouldnât need a party to complete. If you want party play, then add stuff like ET, Saalus, Fantasy Library, etc. Donât force everyone to party up.
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The fk are you talking about? Our ELEMEME was doing 10-12k Frost Clouds on every single mob in ET. Did you forget about Quick Cast? Holy crap, enough said. No wonder youâre crying. Your FC topped out at 6.5k lmfao. Definitely ignoring you now.
And Iâm a god damn Mergen and I have to party. WTF can I solo? You see me crying? Iâm not an SR3. I know an SR3 is the strongest, but I love bows and went Mergen. You see me crying about SR3 being better than me?
Meme dontâ do so much Damage on General. ET 50% of the units are fire thatâs why they are dealing that much.
FC only tops out at 7k unless you have chap card. Bro please get your facts right