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[Discussion] Retiarius - Q&A on PVP & PVE builds, gearing, skills and strategies šŸŽ£

it wasnt a lvl 1 debuff before.

So the only good swordy CC is dead now? :open_mouth:

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I think you did not get it right ā€¦ today Iron Hook is considered a buff nvl1 (yes, a BUFF), so it is disabled when some miko / PD remove the buffs and so too that no anti DEBUFF can stop this (because he is a BUFF) ā€¦ I think it was very explanatory.
After the patch it will become a DEBUFF nvl 1 ā€¦ which is pretty bad.

ā€œ6010ā€ is the debuff the enemy gets when targeted
https://tos.neet.tv/misc/buffs/6010
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/misc/buffs/6010
ā€œ6009ā€ is the buff the user gets when casting
https://tos.neet.tv/misc/buffs/6009
https://tos-ktest.neet.tv/misc/buffs/6009

you are comparing different things, the buff part is from the user when you move or get displaced the buff will disappear.

iron hook debuff level was lvl 10 before

No, its not.

to prove this is very easy:

  1. call 2 friends to test (one of them must be miko or pd3)
  2. Attach one of your friends with Iron Hook
  3. Ask your friend (miko / pd3) to take away your friendā€™s buffs trapped. (with desinchant or gohei)

ps: miko / PD3 should be in duel with your friend as well.

You will notice that as soon as the skill of taking BUFFS (note: the skill only removes buffs and not debuffs) hit your friend Iron Hook will disappear, because he is a BUFF (only in our version).

Take the practical test I showed you above.
If Iron Hook has not been updated it will work.

I am maining a corsair since 2016 and positive that iron hook ā€œwasā€ a level 10 debuff.
Again, those two things are different; one is buff and another is debuff
iron_hook

Ironhook debuff in our server and jtos right now is a lv1 buff thatā€™s shown next to the token icon when used on players. Enjoy it while it lasts, soon just sprinting with painbarrier will have a chance nullify hook.

As someone with the same build I also like it, will probably still go with it now even with the corsair nerf :confused: Switched from Cors1-Dragoon3 as my invest-in-for-pvp character and I really donā€™t want to reroll him anyways. Why is cloaking useless in pvp now?

@thevoidcallsme Looks like it.

Somehow some skills, reportedly Gung Ho and Pelā€™s Guardian, still makes you identifiable due to effects. You canā€™t be targeted with target-focused skills, but itā€™s easy to know where to drop AOE skills or even a normal attack in the air to break your invi. Youā€™d be lucky if everyone in the enemy team have their ā€œOther charactersā€™ effectsā€ setting turned off.

There were also some reports about character shadow being visible despite the invisibility buff.

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Well its good to know :tired:

Before i read this i was thinking of investing my silver in my Corsair/Lancer or Fencer/Corsair for pvpā€¦
Now i think i just put my money into my Zealot xd

thatā€™s the good part of War Cry, but heā€™d proly do good on doing x3 cleave and then using war cry (since cleave is clonable)

It sets it, im goin after SWD3 BAR3 SHI REI2 <3

Warcry debuff extend is good but you wonā€™t find many scenario to utilise it cos normal mob/boss died too fast anyway.

SW1-PELT3-HOPĀ£-RE2. Wanna make an immortal tank for belcper

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good thing im no whale so it becomes handy vs saalus or dung bosses

My 1st swordsman after 2 years in ToS that isnā€™t a Templar or Squire.

Swordsman 1 | Peltasta 3 | Hoplite 1 | Doppel 1 | Nak Muay 1 | Retiarius 1 | Murmilo 1

Currently level 338 and am loving the build.
http://nekorin.info/tos-concept-build-making-a-nak-retiarius/

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Can you guys explain me why sword 3 for pvp in 2018? cannot grasp it.

Nearly 100% uptime P.Barrier - unless IMC somehow changed it so that Gazing Golem can now be procā€™ed by attacks from other players (AFAIK only monsters and summons can), itā€™s still more than worth it to get and Max P.Barrier. Also, something that I find very important in the CC-dominated PVP setting in TOS these days, ā€œAlso, increases the chance to resist abnormalities.ā€

I have to admin Restrain is kind bad right now due to the insane status immunity from a lot of different sources (e.g. Bloodletting). Still, itā€™s a really good CC when used at the right moment.

Double Slash deals good damage in both PVP and PVE scenarios with nice 3 overheats and low cooldown. Itā€™s insane with Bunshin.

I went with PeltastaHop3CorSquireRei2, but iā€™m planning to play it only in GVG and with the pel changes in mind.
PS: you canā€™t proc the extra damage with your own arrest because it vanishes the instant you stop channeling, well actually you CAN by abusing a bug.

hi guys,

i have a lv330 Rank 1 swordman (reset) , haven decide build yet,

any recommendation for Rei2 ? PVE only